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    Posted: January 13 2005 at 12:27pm
I can't seem to figure this one out!
Pre-tipped hair with glue, and also pre-tipped with hard plastic (perma-plugs)... which is better and can you make your own perma-plugs? Also should you pre-tip with the glue over the hard plastic???
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i dont think it matters what you use. if you do a good job pre-tipping, the strands should not shed.

i would say use the glue because melting down plastic and setting it seems more difficult and toxic then using liquid gold.
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Ive bought pre-tips and Ive made my own and even tho it takes a while I will definetely keep making my own. The pre-tips I bought shedded like crazy and the ones I made have hardly shed at all. And I used liquid gold. Im thinking of trying a glue gun next.

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Hi there everybody, can you help me, I did my first set of pre-tipping with liquid gold last night. I did as it says in Amm's fantastic instructions. Then I cured them over night. This morning before I came to work and went and checked them. I expected them to be rock hard but when I touched the tips they were only slightly hard, they were still bendy and still a little tacky. Did I do something wrong or is that how they are supposed to be xxxx
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I don't think they should still be tacky, but perhaps they still need to dry out a little. I'd give them another day, then check again. I think it's OK if they're not rock-hard, but they shouldn't be tacky.

Perhaps it's a humidity issue, or you used more glue than AMM does. Either way, I'd give it more time. Once the tackiness is gone, you should apply the thin coat of nail glue, let dry again, and then you're ready to install them.

Good luck! :)
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I just checked out the liquid gold website and on that it says that when dry the glue is still pliable, so maybe that's just how they are supposed to be. Also I noticed that when the glue dries it can still bond when heat activated. Now I'm worrying that when I apply the heat with the shrinkies that the liquid gold is going to bond to my client's hair as well as the shrinkie, any thought on this would be appreciated xxx
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According to the previous threads here, that shouldn't happen, but I do think it's best to let the strands cure a little longer and apply the thin nail-glue layer which should harden the tips up a bit.

Good luck! :)
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Thanks a lot Jenny. Does anybody else's pre-tips stay pliable ?????xxxxx
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The nail glue that you put on the tip is this just the glue for fake nails? Its probably a really dumb question just want to make sure lol
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Yep. Just standard nail glue.

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thank you! I will just plan to pre-tip myself and use the nail glue...
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I tipped my hair with LG and applied a few with some heat shrink tubing and they didnt melt or bond to my hair. I let the tips go for a good 24 hours and they finally got solid and not tacky anymore. They dont get rock hard. I did layer about a dozen with nail glue but I didnt notice a big difference so I dont think Ill go to the trouble of doing that step in the future.

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emma, was your heat shrink tubing adhesived lined? because i think the shrinkies are.
it didn't get hard even after the nail glue dried?
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Amanda,

Yes, the LG will stay pliable. It is not hard as a rock. That is how they're supposed to dry. If it's tacky, too much glue was used or the strand is too thick and the glue inside did not set up.

And yes, the LG will bond when heat activated. I have run so many tests on this stuff and I've been saying all along that it will. I don't know why Emma is saying Liquid Gold does not respond to heat. A light coating of nail glue that is allowed to dry over the surface of the tip will stop any LG from getting onto your hair or the tip.

Again -- Liquid Gold alone WILL cling to the hair. Dr. Locks web site specifically says you will need a fusion remover that is specific to the glue you made your strands with. Applying a coating of nail glue over the top will harden the tip (depending how much you saturate it) and prevent any tipping glue from transferrring on the hair.
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Sorry Amm, all I know is what happend with my own hair. I tipped mine with LG and used heat shrink tubing with a very hot iron and the tip did not stick to my hair nor did it break down. I took out the heat shrink tubing and used the same tips with my micro links.

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Emma,

Sorry if you already posted this, but I'm losing track of things. Why did you decide on the microrings instead of the shrinkies?

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See, that's why I'm getting confused. I'm reading where she's wearing microrings and now I'm reading she's wearing dual wall tubing or at least has some in?

I was also under the impression she was using dual wall tubing from cableorganizer and did not have shrinkies at all. Additionally, I thought she was not using a fusion wand but was installing the tubing with a flat iron? And one more thing -- I thought I saw where she was wearing synth wigs and now had installed synth hair she got from the beauty supply store and these experiments were not being done on human hair?

My head is spinning.
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Yeah, I think Emma was using the cableorganizer shrink tubing, which wasn't working well, so she switched to the microlinks. And yes, I believe she was using the Futura hair from Sally's, which she liked but felt it was too silky to match her own hair. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the LG and the nail glue adheres somewhat differently depending on the hair. I'm sure we'll figure it out, though....
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Jenny....your brain is like a computer, you keep all this data stored in there and can retreive it at the click of the mouse! LOL
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Ha! I wish it were. I might have a good memory when it comes to hair, but unfortunately, I can't remember the fundamental things in life...where I put the keys, what day of the week it is, names of people I've met a hundred times....LOL!
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