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    Posted: June 08 2003 at 6:14pm
how many women here have implants or thinking about breast implants? i do. infact i had them done 3 times. i consider myself a guru of breast implants. if you have any questions ask me
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Hi Princess,

Thank you so much for the info. Did you go to the same doc for all? Are they silicone or some other material? Any problems with scarring?

Wow. Thanks again for sharing.

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i went to the same dr. he in my opinion is the BEST!!! i have saline. i didn't go with silicone because it is more. i think they look just as good as silicone. funny when i woke up from my last surgery i thought he put silicone by accident because we did talk about it. they felt so soft! my scare i can't see. it's under the crease of my breast. you may be wodering if he is the best why did i do it 3 times which is a good question. i had the tear drop at first. then i still wanted them bigger. then i wanted them more together[see wedding pic, i finally got it!] so i switch to round implants.
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Wow princessmonica!!! Three times!

I am petite, have a pretty good figure I think, and my breasts are about right for my size, but of course I have thought about having larger breasts,-(what women hasn't!!!)-.
Part of me wants to be very, very sexy, -(and I think I'm sexy now, but even more so)-!..... As attractive as humanely possible, and having a "barbie doll body", you know big breasts, a little waist and nice hips, is something many of us dream of.

I have a couple of concerns;-( money isn't one of them. Kathy Ann my partner is the breadwinner in our family and has said she would pay for me to have implants if I wanted them)-.

One concern is- I have heard that if they leak-( silicon implants that is)- it could create health problems.
Another concern is that if I don't go with silicon and choose saline, which I heard ARE safe, that saline implants don't feel like real breasts, they are usually harder and don't really feel realistic.
I , in fact, know this to be true, because being bisexual when I was younger -( before I was with Kathy)-, I slept with women who had implants and some of them didn't feel like real breasts, at least not to me. That bothers me a little, I like a breast that feels natural, if possible.

I also am concerned with how Kathy will react to me. We have a great relationship, and she loves me and my body the way it is. I'm sure she would like me with larger breasts too, but the old adage,"If it ain't broke don't fix it", may apply with me.

Still it is a fascinating idea.
I have seen short, petite women like myself with large breasts and they are VERY SEXY!!!

Concerning my concerns, do you think, Princessmonica and Karen, that they are vaild?
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tina i'm petite too and i love my implants. of course having concerns is valid. the number 1 thing i can not stress enough is GO TO A GOOD DR.!
i ask my husband how they feel and he thinks they feel real. some get them overly to big when they don't have any breast tissue. i think this cause them not to feel real. the tear drop impant doesn't feel as real beacaue they are heavy at the bottom. this was also my fustration when i got implants. i kept hearing tear drop looked more real. [it slopes] well if it gets to heavy it can ''bottom out'' meaning not to scare people, the implant can rip through the skin. so my dr. was worried if i kept going bigger the heavier the implant would be it could ''bottom out'' my only 2 options was silicone or round saline. i was skeptical but i went to the round saline. i was so happy i did! they looked better and felt better! after my surgery i felt them a little and they were soft! i had my mom and nurses feel. they couldn't believe it! my dr. stretch my breast pockets so they would be soft. meaning it made room for the bigger implant.
as far as what kathyann woud think. number 1 talk it over with her. [i was single at the time.] see what she has to say.
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Unless someone has lost a breast to cancer or is abnormally small, I find it sad that women feel that they are so inadequate that they would submit to cutting themselves open for the sake of vanity.

Here's the problem -- when so many women artificially wear fake breasts, then natural women look unnaturally small. It's kind of like fake dyes in food. When so much dye is used, we get used to what the fake color is like so that real color of food looks artificial.

I am 100% totally natural. I'm not a cow, but I'm not as flat as a boy. Thankfully, I have no abnormalities and am extremely grateful for excellent health and healthy self-esteem to appreciate what nature gave me.
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Princess,

I admire you for being willing to share your experiences with all of us and I thank you. I think that if a women wants to change the way she looks through surgery than that is great. I for one am looking into Botox.

Thank you again for sharing.

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Originally posted by Jennifer Jennifer wrote:

Unless someone has lost a breast to cancer or is abnormally small, I find it sad that women feel that they are so inadequate that they would submit to cutting themselves open for the sake of vanity.

Here's the problem -- when so many women artificially wear fake breasts, then natural women look unnaturally small. It's kind of like fake dyes in food. When so much dye is used, we get used to what the fake color is like so that real color of food looks artificial.

I am 100% totally natural. I'm not a cow, but I'm not as flat as a boy. Thankfully, I have no abnormalities and am extremely grateful for excellent health and healthy self-esteem to appreciate what nature gave me.

jenifer you can have your views. a lot of women get implants after they have kids. saging, loss of volume etc. some women just want to have their breast size back. for me i don't feel i'm vain. i felt one was a little bigger than the other. it bothered me. i felt my breast were looking smaller to me. i didn't like how i was looking in certain tops. again i did it for myself.
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>>>>a lot of women get implants after they have kids. saging, loss of volume etc. some women just want to have their breast size back. for me i don't feel i'm vain. i felt one was a little bigger than the other. it bothered me. i felt my breast were looking smaller to me. i didn't like how i was looking in certain tops. again i did it for myself.

You're right; a lot of women are surgically altering their bodies, and it's no wonder you didn't feel good about yourself when so many artificial breasts are held up as the ideal.

I'll bet a lot of women don't even know that breasts are supposed to slope down a bit as we age!! The problem is that so many fakes are around that some people feel unnatural when compared to the artificial breasts.

Part of what makes us beautiful is our uniqueness. If we all wear fake boobs, we'll all look like molded mannequins. We'll forget what real breasts look like!

I'm certainly all for empowering women to feel good about themselves, but except for unusual circumstances, it's quite sad when we have to cut open our bodies to do it.

As for men, almost every man I know can definitely tell the difference and would rather look at and feel a real breast than a fake one any day.

Monica, you seem like a very nice person, and I honestly don't want to insult you, but I really do not want other women to be encouraged to surgically alter their bodies. There are so many ways to feel better about ourselves that are much healthier!



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jenifer it's people choice. my husband think my breasts feel real. that's not even the point. the reason i started a thread was to give out correct imformation. not start a debate.
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Jennifer loves to debate people on every thread, regardless of the subject.

This time I have to actually side with Jennifer. As much as I am intrigued by the idea of getting breast implants, I probably won't. Especially since I want to have another child and want to breast feed the child.

Also I think my breasts are good enough, they are not too small for me, they are about right.

I agree though that it is up to each woman to decide for herself.
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Just a few points here. Never have I claimed that women should not have the choice whether or not to surgically alter themselves! Absolutely, I agree. However, the point which no one has addressed is that with so many surgically-altered women, natural women tend to become more self-conscious and also want bigger, "better" breasts, and I find that sad. Why can't we appreciate what nature gave us? I'm all for enhancing appearances with hair color, perms, make-up, jewelry, clothing, and so forth, but cutting open our bodies is a whole new subject.

Also, Tina, actually you can breastfeed with implants, though, I think that if you look and feel good now, why mess with natural perfection? {grin}

One thing I will not argue at all is breastfeeding. I am THRILLED that you wish to breastfeed any future children! It is absolutely superior to anything a billion dollars could buy to feed your child. Quite simply, you can give your child nothing better than your very own body. No, if you're looking for an argument on not breastfeeding, you'll have to go elsewhere!

I don't like to debate just for the sake of debate, but I like to make people think. Far too many of us reside comfortably in our own little hidden boxes and don't like to travel beyond those borders. But we need to grow. I don't think we need to agree on everything at all.

But, surgically altering our bodies is a cultural trend that I think is worth addressing. Apparently a lot of women feel inadequate with their bodies (especially after childbirth) and wish to change them. Breast enlargement, by far, is an American cultural phenomenon. It kind of goes back to my point about how Americans feel about themselves and comments made to them.....

Btw, I'd rather not be specific, but I have done research on breast implants for an article in a national magazine and spoke to dozens of plastic surgeons and read books and conducted research on the topic. Amazingly, a high school female graduate is almost as likely to get implants for a graduation gift as she is a dictionary. I can't argue that the surgery is extremely common.

My big question is: why, oh why are we so unhappy with our bodies?

(and to be fair, South America is big on "derriere implants." Breast implants are not at all common there, but having a very shapely rear-end is highly desirable.)
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Monica, in regards to your first post. You did you had your breasts done THREE times. If you're willing to discuss it, I'd like to ask: why? Were there problems that needed correcting? Or, did you find that you wanted to be bigger? I promise I won't harp on you for the reasons, but I am curious why you had three operations.
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Originally posted by Jennifer Jennifer wrote:

Monica, in regards to your first post. You did you had your breasts done THREE times. If you're willing to discuss it, I'd like to ask: why? Were there problems that needed correcting? Or, did you find that you wanted to be bigger? I promise I won't harp on you for the reasons, but I am curious why you had three operations.

why did i do it 3 times which is a good question. i had the tear drop at first. then i still wanted them bigger. then i wanted them more together[see wedding pic, i finally got it!] so i switch to round implants. there were no problems at all.
a comment on breastfeeding you still can like you said jenifer. i will not breastfeed anyway because of other issues. this though again was the WHOLE POINT of my thread to begin with. SOME PEOPLE do what implants or have implants. there are mis inform about things such as breastfeeding.
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>>>i will not breastfeed anyway because of other issues.

I won't ask for specifics, but if you don't mind my asking, are the issues medical or psychological?

There is an awfully lot of misinformation about breastfeeding, I've discovered. So many women that I know have been given downright false information from their alleged "educated" doctors. What I find more frustrating is when women don't question it. Far too many of us take one opinion as the true and never bother to find out if there's any more information about the subject. Sigh.......
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i will not breastfeed because of medical reasons. i am handicap and i take medication. i'm trying to tapper off but it's hard [sigh] if i stopped it completely i could have complications. i have done my reseach and talk with my dr. i do not want to put my baby at risk. i will be on it during my prenancy. which i hate but don't see a choice just trying to tapper off more and more. my breast milk will have the medication in it. therfore i do not want to exopose my child to more medication.
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Monica, you've probably already done this, but if you haven't, it would be worth your while to see if there are other types of medication that you could take that wouldn't be as harmful. Often, other drugs are available that won't be as concentrated in the breastmilk but that will treat your condition, but your doctor may not have thought about it.

Also, you may try contacting La Leche League International to ask if they have any current research on alternatives. As busy as doctors are, it's virtually impossible to keep up-to-date and know absolutely everything!

Even as bad as nicotine is, doctors recommend that if a mom insists on smoking, it's better to breastfeed and smoke than to bottle feed and smoke. The antibodies that are found in breastmilk are made specifically for each baby and cannot be duplicated in any man-made breastmilk substitutes.

You may be an extremely rare case where it is advised that no alternatives exist. However, it really would be worth it for both the health of you and your baby to investigate absolutely every possibility.

Best wishes!
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[QUOTE=Jennifer] Monica, you've probably already done this, but if you haven't, it would be worth your while to see if there are other types of medication that you could take that wouldn't be as harmful.

jenifer i have TRIED so MANY over the years. infact one made me have to go to the ER because it didn't work right. i got excited i thought this one dr. had an alternitive but he didn't.. he basically said they are all harmful to a degree.

Also, you may try contacting La Leche League International to ask if they have any current research on alternatives. As busy as doctors are, it's virtually impossible to keep up-to-date and know absolutely everything!

how do you concact them? i'm very interested. thanks for any info.
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Sorry, Monica, I didn't see this earlier.

Here's their website:

http://www.lalecheleague.org/cbi/cbi.html

If you don't find what you're seeking, the number is: (847) 519-7730

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thank you VERY much i will look into it.
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