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    Posted: April 27 2005 at 12:52pm
I'm thinking of trying pinchbraids, but is there a thermofiber that's 40"?  I can't use monofiber because I have to flat iron my natural hair.  Also, just out of curiosity, will any monofiber melt to heat seal or do you have to use a specific brand?
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American Dream is the only therm I know that comes that long; I believe it's available up to 60 inches.

I'm still not sure if you can use thermofiber for heat-seals. I think a few members were conducting experiments, but I'm not sure what the findings were. You can use anything, obviously, with pinchbraids though.

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FinaFina says that her girl can use *any* hair and do heat seals, even human hair. So I imagine for someone who knows how to do what ever her technique is, it could be done with themal too.
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Oh yeah, you can do heat-seals even with human hair, but they take bits of synth and incorporate it into the braids to form the loop. I just don't know if therm itself would seal in on itself, but if not, you could incorporate bits of monofiber to do the job. :)
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ahhhhh, so thats how they do it! Thanks Jenny, I learn something new everyday!
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You have to go higher than 356/180 F/C to make the therm heat seal on itself.  Show me a tool that will get me that hot and I will march right out and try it....
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Mocha, the FHI flat iron model 207rvi get up to 450 degrees... ebay
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LOL mocha....start marchin' girl! Holy cow thats a seriously hot flatiron! Id be afraid of burning my hair right off!
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that scares me

I think I'm going to plead sleep deprivation til I revisit this sometime tomorrow.

And I'm not sure I'd want to do a heat seal with a flat iron.  How big is that?  more than an inch wide and that could be really scary
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all different sizes, I think the smallest is 3/4", so that's not too big.  They're around $100+ bucks tho.
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Oh wait, they're ceramic, I thought you couldn't use ceramic on synth??
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Mocha: Dome's C2 braid sealer reaches 220C!!!!!  
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Dome's C2 braid sealer is insanely expesinve IMHO.  And I just invested in Docs heat clamp.  And I'ma DIY so why am I so prone to buying all these industrial tools that will never get enough mileage to justify their proce and....

Crap that's what i get for opening my damn mouth when I've been working 18 hours a day 7 days a week for 3 weeks.  Stupid @#$% just spews forth.

Seriously though.  How hot does the average straightening iron get?  I have one.  But I haven't tried it for heat sealing...
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Hmmm... I've got some HSF here.My good flat irons at work though. I'll see if a marcel will work. BTW...how much is the C2?
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Originally posted by Bridget Bridget wrote:

Oh wait, they're ceramic, I thought you couldn't use ceramic on synth??


Well, you can, if you're trying to melt it. :)
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Just seen a C2 heat gun on ebay for £39.00 if your interested pm me and I will give you the number for it.  I think it has five days to run yet

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Hey everyone take a look at this I found it on the web then someone sent me an email about it!!
http://www.hairxtensions.cjb.net/
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I use my braid sealer (Hot Tools, $26ish from ebonyline.com) for heat-seals, and I know Boogiemama did too at one point. And no, you don't have to use a specific monofiber; Dome, Trimco, Prostyles, and Plastikhaar all work.

Bird, you may not need to use thermofiber- I can use a curling iron on synth with no problem, and I've been able to use a flot-iron on plain old kanekalon silky braid, so it may not be an issue. Perhaps order (or trade for!) a small amount of monofiber and put in a few test streaks to see how they react to your flat iron.

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But doesn't that braid sealer cut off the hair as it seals? Like trimming the bottom of the braid as it seals it?   That would defeat the entire purpose of a heat sealed loose extension! I was looking into those braid sealers when I was delusional that I could possibly do them myself, and it seemed like those things cut as well as seal.
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I too thought braid sealers also cut the ends.  Otherwise I probably would have gotten one rather than DOcs clamp
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They do, if you use them the way you're supposed to. As you cans ee here: http://store.ebonyline.com/50022.html

There's a little cone-shaped indent, and that's the spot where the braid would go normally. But right in front of it, there's a little flat spot where two parts of the hot section meet; that's the spot I use. You've got to clamp it once from one angle, then rotate it a little and clamp it at another angle, but it works.

Though mocha, don't regret buying Doc's clamp...I'm actually considering getting one, since I think it would give better control (the action on the braid sealer is a little loose) and the braid sealer gets a little too hot for my taste- you have to clamp on really fast, and then let go really fast, r the hair melts through. So the variable temp on Doc's wand would help, I think.

I'd really like to know what Boogiemama uses these days, now that Doc carries the heat clamps as well as the braid sealers.

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