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    Posted: December 08 2004 at 5:45am
i was at work last night and my boy said that jay-z was the greatest of all time. i'm like HELL NO. maybe hes the greatest OF HIS TIME, BUT NOT ALL TIME. Personally, i still say biggie is for the simple fact that all his songs on ready to die and life after death are classics......straight bangers, if they were put on a mixtape in todays rap industry.....my god. And the nigga still had room for iimprovement. My man sayin jay-z better cause biggie and pac died and jay-z's talent is better now in his prime then when big and pac were in theirs. I felt like slappin this nigga, but he my man. This is why there's a top 5 list and not a greatest of all time list. Anyway, here's my top 5 and my reasons for them being there.....
1. Biggie - Too deep for some niggas to understand, to where when niggas finally understood him and what he was sayin....it blew they mind.
2. 2pac - I cant stand him......but he is the hardest rapper of all time, not better lyrically than biggie cause he made like 50 times more songs, but they're still being compared to eachother. Somethings wrong wit dat picture.
3.Big Pun - This nigga is the reason Fat Joe, Pitbull, Jo Jo Pelligrino, Chino XL is rappin now. Also, a lyrical genius.
4. LL Cool J - how all of the first 10 of your albums go platinum. Nuff said.
5. Rakim - The 18th Letter
Honorable Mentions - KRS, Eminem, Big L, Big Daddy Kane, Jay-Z, Nas, Snoop, Dre, there are others.............ANYWAY WHAT YALL THINK AND WHAT IZ YALL PICS, POST AWAY

O YEAH - IF THIS WAS ALREADY A THREAD BEFORE I GOT HERE....OH WELL, I WAS NOT LOOKIN THROUGH ALL 60 PAGES
I'M REPPIN EVERY NICCA IN DEES STREETS TO SCREAM AT ME!!!!!!

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whats up cheater! (mosdef) is the best
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nope nope.......tupac shakur is THE greatest of ALL time.....he lyrics were deeper den biggie.....he made mor music then biggie......n im sorry but he is loved mor then biggie......bggie was a betta RAPPER yes.....but tupac got to pplz hearts wit almost ALL of his songs....whereas biggie lik many ota rappers only hav them few songs that really touch u.....juss my opinion
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I THIN YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING CONFUSED...ESPECIALLY CHEATER.....
THERE ARE 3 TYPES OF ARTIST.
-MC'S
-HIP HOP ARTIST
-LYRICIST

THE GREATES MC OF ALL TIME: RAKIM
-HIP HOP ARTIST-JAY-z
-LYRICIST-NAS

THE BEST THAT THE GAME HAS TO OFFER.....PAC AND BIGGIE WERE GOOD, BUT U HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT BOTH RAPPERS WERE MOSTLY ABOUT GETTIN MONEY, AND EVERYONE FOUND OUT HOW SOULFUL TUPAC WAS ONLY AFTER HE DIED....BIGGIE WAS A JAY-Z B4 HE TOOK OVER.....WUT IS SO SAD NOW IS THAT...HIP HOP IS LOOSIN IT'S TOUCH...IF WE HAD MORE CATS LIKE JAY,NAS THE GAME WOULD BE SO COMPETETIVE....NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT THE CLUB SCENE...N E SONG THAT HAS THE THEME ABOUT CLUBS IS A FUC'N JOKE.......

HERE'S ANOTHER THOUGHT.....SINCE JAY-Z HAS RETIRED.....NOBODY IS REPPIN BROOKLYN LIKE BIG AND JAY WERE.....SORRY TO SAY IT.....OF COURSE FABOLOUS HOLDS IT DOWN, BUT NOT GOOD ENOUGHT AS TO WHERE IF I SAY THE WORD "BROOKLYN" FABOLOUS COMES TO MIND....WHEN I SAY BROOKLYN"JAY-Z AND BIG COME TO MIND"

SAY QUEENS-NAS
BRONX-FAT JOE
-STAT.ISLAND-WU-TAND
-HARLEM(F*CK MASE)DIPLOMATS
MANHATTAN-DIDDY.....HES FAKE N E WAY

I PUT PUFFY IN THE SAME BOAT AS SUGE KNIGHT...NOBODY WANTS THEM ON THEY'RE RECORD....I MEAN....DIDDY IS NOT EVEN A PRODUCER,ARTIST N E MORE...HE'S JUST A ENTRPENUER....PERSONALLY THE BEST ENTREPENUE IN MY EYES....IS DAME DASH....

THE HIP HOP GAME IS ALL F*CK'D UP....EVERYONE IS SCARED OF BATTLING.....BEEF AND BATTLING R TO DIFFERENT THINGS.....

BIG AND PAC-BEEF
NAS AND JAY--Z-BEEF

JOE BUDDEN V.JAY-Z-BATLE..EVEN THO THEY BATTLED THEY COOL AS HELL AFTERWARDS...C THA DIFFERENCE
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1. Tupac n Biggie
2.Eminem
3. Nas
4.Jayz
5. Jadakiss
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i aint even gonna get into this
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Originally posted by BlackFate BlackFate wrote:

1. Tupac n Biggie
2.Eminem
3. Nas
4.Jayz
5. Jadakiss

just to let you know....Tupac N. Biggie is not a full name...2 different people, no skitzo's here buddy
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Originally posted by Cardinal Cardinal wrote:

Originally posted by BlackFate BlackFate wrote:

1. Tupac n Biggie
2.Eminem
3. Nas
4.Jayz
5. Jadakiss

just to let you know....Tupac N. Biggie is not a full name...2 different people, no skitzo's here buddy
LOL cardinal.....i put it lik that to say evn though they impacted hip hop in two different ways...there were n still r the best of all time
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starting line up

best hip hop artist- jay-z
best lyricist-tupac
best mc- rakim

bench

best hip hop artist-biggy smalls
best lyricist-nas
best mc-dmx

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best rappeR of all time
2Pac
dont feel like gettin into why but

i always thought biggie was better when they were alive but i was younger then
2pac was more versatile
he had so much emotion in his music
he just had something special that no one else ever will
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Originally posted by 1800FabFlow 1800FabFlow wrote:

best rappeR of all time
2Pac
dont feel like gettin into why but

i always thought biggie was better when they were alive but i was younger then
2pac was more versatile
he had so much emotion in his music
he just had something special that no one else ever will
his mucis spoke to u.....lik he was right there talkin to u......suttin i dun think ne rapper will evr b able to do again
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biggie was lyrically too much for 2pac, but when 2 pac spoke...everyone listened...he started a movement, but no one in tha game is steppin up to finish it.
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cuz no one in the game has his talent or is willin to except pplz lik eminem n nas......every1 else juss wanna mak club records.....if u juss got into a fight wit u homie n u pissed as hell u gonna turn on drop it lik its hot or nething lik that?.....im surprised at snoop.....instead of doin wat he used to do he b makin all these club records too.....evn eminem n nas r not wat there were in the beginnin......instead of effectin the game they lettin the game effect them.....until pplz undstand wat tru rap sounds lik, hip hop is gonna kepp declinin as far as its value
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I'll tell u this...i have more respect 4 eminem now....

look at his videos....Mosh and Toy Soldiers...takes the bigger man to try and squash some beef, plus nobody else would have made a song that adresses the president head on...mad props to shady
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i think the only think that holds em back from being top 5 dead or alive is all the dumb songs and videos he makes like
"just lose it"
i know the white people eat that stuff up but c'mon
u cant mix sh*t like mosh and toy soldiers with bs like "just lose it"
he needs to stop with the silly songs
it was all good in the beginning but im sick of it
when is dude gonna stop wearin costumes and acting like an @ss
i mean i know he's versatile but i wouldnt want those kinda tracks on my Potential GOAT resume
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word.....hes still tryin to live out slim shady....n evn though he sells good wit iit his bes music is wen hes rappin from "Marshal Mathers" point of view.....thats the cleanin out my closet n stan n i am n all his songs bout kim (superman).....slim shady was good bak den but ur right u dun want thos on ur resume
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his whole style is changing. he used to get into his music n relly spit his feelings..who else do u know would call they moms a ****** on a cd and wish her to hell??ova the years hes been like changing his whole way of rappin...if u hea him in the lean back remix he dont even like get into the music he sounds like hes bored as hell...i know it sounds confusing wat im sayin but if u could understand it then youll know exactly wat im mean...
us niggaz hea in NY yea we always rushin, but our waves stay spinnin cuz we Bru-Bru
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yeah i know what u sayin but his albums all have the same formula
"silly song" 1st single.....just lose it, without me
serious single...mosh...
single about affect of music on his life...
toy soldiers, 8mile road

so his style aint really change
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LOL.....yea u right......his formula is the same.....but then again if ur him why change it if eery album is seliin platinum plus.....if it aint broken, dun fix it.....but thats the thing....its all about money now.....n artists r bein changed by it
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