Where is the Shrinkies Thread?

i can understand both sides of the spectrum on this whole issue.

Its prob the same way hairlocs feels about their patent. now eveyone sells, links, locs, shells, tubes, etc. they all do the same thing, even look the same, and yet, everyone is profiting from someone elses ideas. Personally, i would take it as a compliment and let it go, you could spend your whole life sueing eveyone or spend your life making SURE your the best and so is your product.

For Mark- i agree stylist should be certified in what ever method they plan to do, it makes for more credibility and professionalism. There are 6 stylist in my salon certified and their certificiates are proudly displayed in salon and we are currently the top extension salon in our area.

OK, read it. When does this thing expire. Anyone know?

xoxox

Jenny_RR wrote: amm wrote: That said, using the name "shrinkies" or "heat shrink tubing" in regard to hair is neither a violation of any registered trademark or patent. OK, now I'm totally confused. If it's not in violation, then what's the issue here? Didn't MB say the distribution and/or application of shrink tubing in hair (by any name) is in violation of his patent, unless he gets a cut? So confused, lol! xoxox

I only know about all this based on the early '05 incident with Dr. Locs and some other legal issues (not related whatsoever to Barrington)...

Shrinklinks is a trademark. You cannot use that to profit when you are selling a service or items that are not the trademarked product.

The patent is a process and method. Tubing vendors do not profit off a process - it's the salons and people who use the process for monetary gain or teach Barrington's patented process for their own profit. Anyone can go out and buy shrink tubing off the shelves - that is not the issue (edit: it seems mistakenly to be, though).

When you make money off the method Barrington patended, you are in violation.

Here's the patent and it's a good thing to ask yourself if you're doing this and making money: http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=H ITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,1 07,867.WKU.&OS=PN/5,107,867&RS=PN/5,107,867

Edited by amm

You got to know when to hold ’em, know when to fold ’em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
You never count your money when you’re sittin’ at the table.
There’ll be time enough for countin’ when the dealin’s done.

I think the whole thing is a BLUFF....and trying to use BULLY tactics and intimidate and scare people into not using anything other than HIS process

what I understand is..so long as someone is making money, and putting hardware store shrink tubing in someones hair it would be a violation of his patent. If Im using it for my own person use its fine!

First, in regard to my site and products being gone, many of you already know that back in December I became contractually obligated to something completely non-hair related and I have no spare time anymore. Products get sold, some I have restocked, some I haven't. I'm addressing some way to keep doing it all and I have no workable solution as of yet.

Second, there's been a lot of legalities already addressed last year between attorneys behind-the-scenes in regard to shrinkies. I'd like to add as well that none of that was between myself and Mr. Barrington, his company or products. What I know of this situation is what I have read right here along with you guys.

Let me say that I do respect the concept of patenting an idea/invention and keeping tight control over the product. Choosing who you certify and allow to use the product should be commended. Let's face it, if this was for the money, the shrinklinks would have been out in the market before China saturated the states with it. However, now that something's going to come out to the general public without control, there may be some question as to level of caring vs profit. I'm just sayin'.

That said, using the name "shrinkies" or "heat shrink tubing" in regard to hair is neither a violation of any registered trademark or patent. Providing heat shrink tubing does not fall into that realm either as the process for application is left up to the individual and has never been trained for profit. (Not by me anyway and I have no control over others who take it upon themselves to do). Surely, heat shrink tubing has been applied to the plugs of "thermosetting adhesive" coated hair strands as it has been applied to non-adhesive strands as it's been applied to bulk as it's been applied to pinchbraids as it's been applied to wefts, etc. There can't be general language in a patent process that states "this covers every known way of using generic tubing on any type of hair extension method." If one wants to patent every process and method, those methods for patent must be purchased. That's how fusion methods multiply with prior patents - something is changed or improved upon and a new patent emerges. That's how we wind up with multiple selections of products and generic versions and department store brands that not only create a like brand but even mimic design labels (which is a copyright but that's another topic). These examples are not exhaustive and can be sited over and over.

Now, I can see where the methods and procedure of attachment for monetary gain which is employed by individuals or salons may be a bone of contention. That may be something that has to be decided in the legal forum. But that has nothing to do with me. I've never gained profit over "attachment" process methods.

Just to inject some real fear into this -- I have seen this in a few places, salons/and or private extensionists profiting from using the name "shrinklinks" to promote a service when in fact they have neither been certified in or use Concept Inc.'s tubing and method. Further, using any heat shrink tubing that is not shrinklinks and promoting that to attract customers for personal profit    


And I agree, it can be pretty confusing when the world market is saturated with a product name like shrinkies and is moving toward a name already trademarked. For example:

http://www.ecplaza.net/tradeleads/seller/2498291/100human_ha ir_wig_hairpiece_fusion_iron_hair_extension_ironkit_glue_pot _glue_gun_shrinklink.html

You can see China is now using the terminology "shrinklinks." One wonders how to stem the flow.

AMM - I am sorry what has happened to you but please......

Jenny - EXACTLY what I am saying.....

I think I'm getting  it now.... whatever... we'll just have to start an underground for adhesive lined shrink tubing........thinking along the lines of bath tub gin and speak easy's for DIY hair extenioners.