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    Posted: March 16 2006 at 7:44pm
I was getting dropped off to get my relaxer the other day and i asked my salonist how long was she going to be so i could tell my ride what time to piuck me up and she coped and attitude saying "how ever long it takes" i mean she acted as if i was doing her a favor i mean IM the customer im paying her so why the attitude? is this normal? I mean so many blk salonist seem to think they are doing you a favor by doing your hair when in actuality you the customer are doing them a service by being there paying the 50 dollars to get your hair relaxed
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That is the question for the ages.  I really don't know but I can tell you that they are sabotaging their money with behavior like that.
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well i was watching the news this morning about how 85% of woman are either jealous and/or envious of other women and act that way towards them.maybe she was being snappy with u because of this,just like women sometimes do when u walk down the street (can i get a mm hmm?) as for beauticians acting that way and sabotaging there own finances, too bad for them cuz they are loosing business. just find a place where u feel welcomed and forget those bad attitudes.
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Twinkle Toes, as soon as she said that, you should have said, "never mind", and walked out.

I'm happy to say that I've always had very nice stylists! If anyone here is in Atlanta and needs a stylist, pm me and I'll give you her contact information.

I used to see her on Cascade Road....and when she moved to SANDY SPRINGS (Roswell Road), I followed her there.

Anyone living here knows that's a loooooooong drive on 285....and Roswell Road is ALWAYS crowded, too!

I don't follow just any stylist.

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oh, btw, I would NEVER see a stylist with a bad attitude...I have a thread on the BLOOPERS board about finding a good stylist, and I'm going to post this advice on that board.
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I also forgot to add is that you have to be careful with stylist like that because one of these days they may take that bad attitude out on your hair.
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Originally posted by Renata22 Renata22 wrote:

Twinkle Toes, as soon as she said that, you should have said, "never mind", and walked out.

I'm happy to say that I've always had very nice stylists! If anyone here is in Atlanta and needs a stylist, pm me and I'll give you her contact information.

I used to see her on Cascade Road....and when she moved to SANDY SPRINGS (Roswell Road), I followed her there.

Anyone living here knows that's a loooooooong drive on 285....and Roswell Road is ALWAYS crowded, too!

I don't follow just any stylist.

I would have walked out too! They wouldn't be touching my hair. Like Champ said, their nastiness would probably flow over into how they treat and care for your hair.

I don't like salons and you will only find me in one if I am desperate. Most aren't happy to see me in the first place.

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I agree...be very aware of a stylist acting like that..That's usually the first warning..and when something goes wrong with your hair and you think its something you've done ohh they will be quick to be like.."well you need this and this and this" basically having you spending all types of money and what they are doing is not helping. I would have walked out of there though. But not all stylist are like that Thank God! LOL

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also, i might add..because i have a mixed ethnic background..no one can really tell what nationality i am..some say puerto rican with nappy hair, panamanian, african american, creole, etc.,.i speak a bit of a few languages..so one day, i made an appt. with someone in the hispanic part of town.the advertisement said they did "all types" of hair..i made the appt. speaking spanish without thinking..but when i showed up..all hell broke loose..

They thought it was a joke...what was worse, i spoke english when i came into the salon..thus, they went off into a tirade of who would do the "mayate's" hair..some said "morena"  or "negra" at least...for those of you who don't know what the word "mayate" means in english..it's the hispanic version of the "n" word..(or an insignificant "bug")

one beautician said to her co-workers in spanish she would do my hair, but i would have to wait a while. some other beauticians started laughing.my appt. was at 2:00 p.m. and after being pretty much crapped on, it was about 2:15 p.m.  i apologized to them in spanish, and excused myself saying that i would go elsewhere...the place was so quiet you could a pin drop..  i walked out...

I've been in Asian salons..they were rude...and i walked out..African American salons...yep, you got it...rude...there, moreso than most cultures, mainly because i frequented them more often..what's worse, after 5 years of going to one that i really liked..she asked for money, and has yet to pay me back...now...whenever i call, i get her voicemail..

I have finally found a professional beautician who is in Elk Grove..i really like her, her work, but most of all her professionalism..she's african american, takes pride in herself, the way she carries herself, and how she treats her clients...i have found that she "hand picks" her clients..how she does this is:  She doesn't have clients that disrespect her, thus, she has no reason to disrespect them"...

 

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Originally posted by Champagne_Wishe Champagne_Wishe wrote:

I also forgot to add is that you have to be careful with stylist like that because one of these days they may take that bad attitude out on your hair.

I was just thinking that very think!  But worse than attitude, why am I there 5 hours just to get a wash 'n set?  I hate being in the salon all day!

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Originally posted by femmemuscle femmemuscle wrote:

one beautician said to her co-workers in spanish she would do my hair, but i would have to wait a while. some other beauticians started laughing.my appt. was at 2:00 p.m. and after being pretty much crapped on, it was about 2:15 p.m.  i apologized to them in spanish, and excused myself saying that i would go elsewhere...the place was so quiet you could a pin drop..  i walked out...

Good for you!  I also trip latinos/hispanics out when I eavesdrop and reply in spanish  Now if I can pick up Vietnamese while I'm at the nail shop and I'll be str8.

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I mean why do some salonist act like they are doing you a favor rather than a service my mom said i quote "thats just how negros act" is this true i would hate to think so

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Originally posted by TwinkletOes23 TwinkletOes23 wrote:

I mean why do some salonist act like they are doing you a favor rather than a service my mom said i quote "thats just how negros act" is this true i would hate to think so

No, I think it is a woman thing. Women hate on other women no matter what their background is. 

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Originally posted by femmemuscle femmemuscle wrote:

also, i might add..because i have a mixed ethnic background..no one can really tell what nationality i am..some say puerto rican with nappy hair, panamanian, african american, creole, etc.,.i speak a bit of a few languages..so one day, i made an appt. with someone in the hispanic part of town.the advertisement said they did "all types" of hair..i made the appt. speaking spanish without thinking..but when i showed up..all hell broke loose..

They thought it was a joke...what was worse, i spoke english when i came into the salon..thus, they went off into a tirade of who would do the "mayate's" hair..some said "morena"  or "negra" at least...for those of you who don't know what the word "mayate" means in english..it's the hispanic version of the "n" word..(or an insignificant "bug")

one beautician said to her co-workers in spanish she would do my hair, but i would have to wait a while. some other beauticians started laughing.my appt. was at 2:00 p.m. and after being pretty much crapped on, it was about 2:15 p.m.  i apologized to them in spanish, and excused myself saying that i would go elsewhere...the place was so quiet you could a pin drop..  i walked out...

I've been in Asian salons..they were rude...and i walked out..African American salons...yep, you got it...rude...there, moreso than most cultures, mainly because i frequented them more often..what's worse, after 5 years of going to one that i really liked..she asked for money, and has yet to pay me back...now...whenever i call, i get her voicemail..

I have finally found a professional beautician who is in Elk Grove..i really like her, her work, but most of all her professionalism..she's african american, takes pride in herself, the way she carries herself, and how she treats her clients...i have found that she "hand picks" her clients..how she does this is:  She doesn't have clients that disrespect her, thus, she has no reason to disrespect them"...

 

 

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ooooh, femmemuscle....you live near Elk Grove, IL? Have you ever heard of James Iha? I used to have the BIGGEST FREAKING CRUSH on him back when the Pumpkins were popular!!! He and his family are from Elk Grove!!! I would so drive around looking for the Ihas if I were there!!! STALKERRAMA TIME!

Back on topic, Atlanta African American stylists tend to mostly be professional because there are so many salons and they know we can literally just walk out and go across the street! There are at least 10-12 salons just within a short drive from my home (if I were to use the bus/train system or drive beyond Greenbriar and West End Malls, that would make HUNDREDS of stylists available)....and I still drive 20-30 minutes away to see my stylist! The stylists here KNOW that we can find someone else and don't have to go to them.

Again, if you have a problem with a stylist, walk out the FIRST time they give you attitude!

femmemuscle, I would have IMMEDIATELY said, "No thank you, I'll go where I'm appreciated" in Spanish and walked out.

But, again, I'm lucky. I've NEVER had a stylist give me attitude. I had my nails done (a LONG time ago when I used to have my nails done) at a salon where the women would always compliment my skin and hair and would suggest what colors would look good on me.



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Phoenix, why do you say stylists aren't happy to see you? Because your hair is so long?

They would love you here....longer hair means they can charge you more!

Do you relax yourself? I'm so afraid to do my own chemicals because I know NOTHING about them. Also, with my texturizer, it's very precise.

I figure I'd rather pay to have it done right, than get it screwed up for free. But if you can do your own relaxer, that's GREAT! I wish I could!

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Speaking of salons in this area........

If anyone from Atlanta is interested in Taliah Wajid (sp?) products for natural hair, she has a salon near the West End. I've never tried her products or her services, but I've seen posts in different places on the web raving about her.

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Originally posted by Renata22 Renata22 wrote:

Phoenix, why do you say stylists aren't happy to see you? Because your hair is so long?

They would love you here....longer hair means they can charge you more!

Do you relax yourself? I'm so afraid to do my own chemicals because I know NOTHING about them. Also, with my texturizer, it's very precise.

I figure I'd rather pay to have it done right, than get it screwed up for free. But if you can do your own relaxer, that's GREAT! I wish I could!

Yep. That's why. They usually turn me down when I step foot in their place of "business". I only used to go for relaxers. My mom always told me it was because they didn't want to deal with my hair. When I did find one that took me, she combed my hair the wrong way, I lost lots of hair, she trimmed... I mean CUT it, as well as let other folks play in my hair. She also charged too much. 75$ is too much for a relaxer, IMO. I don't see her anymore. My mom does my hair.

My mom always says that I wouldn't be able to get all the chemicals out of my hair and that relaxing long hair is hard. I think I could do it though. I've been wanting to do it myself for a long time (years) and I'm not scared to try. Maybe I will get around to it. (I only relax about 2 times a year)



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i live in California, for the last 4 years...in el granada...and have to drive about  100 miles to elk grove, near sacramento..

The beautician who borrowed  money by the way was from Atlanta, Georgia..She goes my the name of "Storm", but her name was Betty Robinson...

She was professional to an extent, but couldn't say "no" when other clients walked in on my appointments, and wanted to hang  out and talk, or get their hair done right away while my head was in the bowl..Storm booked by "appt. only"...but I usually had to be the one speak up and tell them that I had paid money for a certain time slot of hair repair, as well as privacy..and would they please be so kind and to let me keep this..

The first years that i went to her, she stuck to her policy, then after a while, when more "potential" clients came by, or people she knew, she relaxed on the rules.

they would get offended and leave, call the beautician up on her cell phone while she's working on my head, (i have very good ears), and of course, storm would "yeah, she's crazy" or "she don't like folks around her that's all".Instead of just saying "i book by appt. only" .then when she's off the phone, turn right around and say "Thanks for speaking up..because if i speak up, I'd lose the client"...that way, i could be the scape goat...

all of the beauticians in the south are not professional, culturally, as well as geographically, there are severall "bad eggs" in the business..i don't speak a few languages because i sat at home watching television..i've been all over this country many times...dealing with women most of the time has taught me patience...dealing with men has taught me to be direct and straightforward in my language, while leaving emotion out of it..

I just settled down with my boyfriend of 4 years now...and i'm 44 years old..the problem is i don't look my age at all...thus, i get spoken to as if i'm some kind of 19 or 20 year old...this, too has taught me much patience..whether at the beauty shops, or in the Surgery Suites.

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Why do some salonists have attitudes? Its has nothing to do with enthenticity nor any other justifiable reason. Its just good old fashion disrespect. Commonly stylist and barbers have obtained attitudes being independent contractors because the forget that the disipline and customer service must come first and should be natural. There not monitored by any real structure, so they can esily become unprofessional, sometimes forgetting that they still are a business first. This trend is common in alot of fields were there are independent contractors.SmileTHE CUSTOMER IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PERSON IN YOUR BUSINESS.

Another important thing is to seperate your personal life from your professional life, no matter how much your client shares. Is always about your client, thats what they pay you for. The worst mistake a stylist can do is complain to a stylist about there personal life.

If a stylist has to have attitude about a client spending their time and money then its time to move on.

 

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