QuoteReplyTopic: I used silicone to pretip & it’s amazing Posted: April 24 2005 at 4:15pm
So, I couldn't find the expoxy that marie used at my home depot, soo I pretipped with Silicone instead and it went really well. I will have some photos up Tuesday
I used GE Silicone II 100% silicone Sealant clear. It is low oder (so it's not real stinky when applying) withsdands temps up to 400F, I think because it says "NOT for surfaces that will exceed 400F. Gets tacky in 30 min, so it's really easy to work with and It fully cures in 24 hours.
Next test will be to put them in, I will be using Amms black shrinkies , let's see how silicone works with shrinkies wish me luck!
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What kind of epoxy are you all talking about? I got some epoxy from the hardare store the other day, the kind where you have to mix two liquids. I read it and there was somewhere on the package (in fine print) that said the ingredients may cause cancer. I don't know if you all are talking about the same thing, but I'd check.
I bought that same silacone but only made one tip with it I bought it to try to go over pre tipped hair, as we saw some one else say they did this. the one tip I made (not pre tipped hair but just silicone did not seam to hold the hair well. I could pull it apart. I still would like to try it to coat a pretip!
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Wow,luzminerva that sounds awsome.I have been practicing with liquid gold and even one drop can turn into a mess.And your right about the smell(its right up there with poo).
Oh and bird thats why I tell you to open the window!! By the way acetone causes cancer too. But I must say I do love my epoxy tips I am going to make about 200 of the buggers in a bit here for a client I'm doing on tuesday
Why at your at the hardwear store buing the epoxy you can have them get you the right mask for fumes.If you saw my post on how to make more in less time it will cut your exposure down.I live dangerosly. I have removed asbestos and countless encounters with led paint while restoring this house!!Whats a little epoxy at this point?
I've just done some research and found this post on a chemical board. I'm not touching epoxy.
> I bought the Devcon 5 minute Epoxy in my local hardware store. > There were warnings not to get it on your skin as you mixed it, > etc. Of course I got some on my skin, so I washed immediately. > I also left a window open during the screen drying process. > > Question: How dangerous is the warning below that accompanied > the product? Should this product be avoided in favor of Duco > Cement or Krazy Glue? Or is this in almost every product? > > Warning: Contains epoxy resin and polymercaptan amines. This > product contains a chemical known to the State of California > to cause cancer. Avoid contact with eyes and skin. Avoid > breathing vapors. Use with adequate ventilation. Wear > suitablle protective clothing.
There are warnings to make you safe (don't put epoxy glue into your eyes or eat it), and then there are warnings to help prevent lawsuits (epoxy may cause cancer). I don't know how nasty epoxy is to breathe, but I don't like the 5-minute type simply because it smells like burnt hair.
Lab rats are used to evaluate cancer risks because they're about the most uniform mammals available and, despite costing $1,000 apiece, it's far cheaper to test with them and expose them to high concentrations of the test substance than to test at normal levels in humans because the latter requires way too many subjects (hard to keep track, hard to prevent unknown quantities from being introduced or factored out) and way too much time for accurate results. When something gives lab rats cancer, it almost always gives humans cancer, too, but the risk may be so small to be barely meaningful. The problem is that warning labels for cancer don't distinguish between big risks (cigarettes, big doses of hydrocarbons or microfine carbon dust) and small risks (artificial sweeteners, epoxy that you use once a year).
Then there are inbred idiots who think that nothing is dangerous and that only crazy Californians worry about cancer.
Its not me that I'm too bothered about but I have a cat and four dogs so I don't think this will be a suitable method for me. I'm going to go to the home depot after work though and do some investigating xx
Why at your at the hardwear store buing the epoxy you can have them get you the right mask for fumes.If you saw my post on how to make more in less time it will cut your exposure down.I live dangerosly. I have removed asbestos and countless encounters with led paint while restoring this house!!Whats a little epoxy at this point?
hmm, totally unrelated but asbestos comes back to haunt you in later life, my boyfriens fathers friend just died because he touched some on a roof 30 years ago
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There are so many things out there that will get you. Pesticids in your vegy's god knows what in your water and most things you don't eaven know how to avoid or that your in contact with in the frist place!! As I said wear a mask. For asbestos I spray it with water before removing, led (all my moldings that I have removed I wear a mask (ventilator).I am trying to get as close to MB's as posible and the epoxy is it for me. If eaven with percations you do not wish to use this that's totaly your choice.
Don't forget the fact that the warning doesn't *just* say to avoid breathing it, it ALSO says to avoid contact with SKIN! So if you are pretipping and rolling it, it is definitely coming into contact with your skin, and wearing a face mask isn't going to protect you from that. You could wear gloves, but that would be a sticky mess as it would stick to your gloves. Also, wearing on your head that is known to cause cancer seem way too dangerous to me. If you don't mind the risk of cancer and want to use epoxy anyways, that's your perogative, but please don't use epoxy tipped hair on anyone else.
I've just picked up some all purpose non toxic glue that dries clear from the home depot. It reminds me a bit like latex but less rubbery I've tipped two pieces of hair. When its dry I'm going to firstly see if they stick together because obviously I don't want to do a bunch, put them to one side when they're all dry and find they're all stuck together like latex does. Secondly I'm going to heat test it by itself on the wand and then in the shrinkie to see if it adheres to my manniquins hair, I'll keep you posted. I tried to find some silicone but there are no heat resistent ones at my home depot, bummer x
Epoxy once dry is plastic the same stuff you touch all the time . it compleatly canges to a diferent product once the two parts are mixed and then cured. The silicones I have tryed do not end up sticking to the hair well they peel off.It may be usefull to coat pretipped hair though.
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, let's see how silicone works with shrinkies wish me luck!
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