well, i thought she was great...

oh my GOsh- GGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

that is way uncalled for and so unprofessional-

i am a Christian and i would NEVER ever talk to a client or anybody for that matter, if someone is wanting to reach, you or lead you to the lord- my experience has been this-

you may be the only bible someone may ever read.

Its all about actions. i am so sorry she beat you with a bible. That is NOT what God wants from christians, to beat them up with releigion.

set your boundaries girl if you decide to go back, i would call and tell her your going to get your hair done not going to a sermon.

I think bringing up religion like that is very tacky.  I'd rather talk about my 387 uses of astroglide before something as personal as religion.

Edit: and if it was me, I would let her know that any future mention will be her last, because I woulod discontinue her services.

Femme, I know exactly how you feel.  I moved to East Texas 2 yrs ago and was "assulted" with people asking what church I belonged to and what religon I practiced.  Comming from MN which is a very "accepting" state to the "Bible belt" was such culture shock.  I have never in all my years have I been preached to so much, and told that I needed saving and my children need God.  I have my own beliefs and are raising my kids to have their own opions.  We do not need anybody telling us what to think or believe!!!

Femme, you sound like such a smart and informed woman, YOU GO GIRL!!!!

femmemuscle wrote: the daughter was so confused when i challenged their belief with just one simple question..she began crying saying "i don't want to be lost!"...

Just curious, what was the question?

Anyway, when you go back, if she starts up again, just tell  her outright, "I don't want to talk about this..." and cheerfully change the subject. If she can't let it go, I guess you hit the pavement in search of another stylist.

I am a Christian, I love the Lord and sharing him with others, but only when they are interested. She needs to let it go.

Based on what you posted femmemuscle it really doesn't seem that she was trying to shove religion on you. She just asked if you knew the Lord. In your defense (because many people have tried to shove it onto you in the past) it seems that you were immediately offended. I'm not going to say if it was appropriate or not but hey if she feels that it is her duty to tell people about her beliefs then I think thats great. Some people procliam that they are so saved but are afraid to talk about their beliefs. I beleieve that if you love anything or are proud of anything in some way you will bring it up. And you said you started to ask them questions about DNA , etc. Let me tell you I have a Bachelor's degree and if you ask me anything about trigonometry then consider me stupid cause I couldn't tell you one thing. Next time just tell them that you are not interested. Don't get upset. I mean thats just like you could be excited about something and want to tell everyone and they directly tell you whatever and they don't want to hear it. I'm saved and no everyone I come across I don't stop and say "do you know Jesus". But I do share my faith because I'm proud of it. You would be suprised how many people wish that someone would have told them about Jesus a long time ago.  So if you don't believe don't challenge just be upfront and tell them you are not interested. You never know why someone chose Christ or if they are newly Christians (so it takes time to find out more). I'm not saying you are wrong, but maybe she felt comfortable enough with you as a client to share her beliefs.   

LatteTresses wrote: Based on what you posted femmemuscle it really doesn't seem that she was trying to shove religion on you. She just asked if you knew the Lord. In your defense (because many people have tried to shove it onto you in the past) it seems that you were immediately offended. I'm not going to say if it was appropriate or not but hey if she feels that it is her duty to tell people about her beliefs then I think thats great. Some people procliam that they are so saved but are afraid to talk about their beliefs. I beleieve that if you love anything or are proud of anything in some way you will bring it up. And you said you started to ask them questions about DNA , etc. Let me tell you I have a Bachelor's degree and if you ask me anything about trigonometry then consider me stupid cause I couldn't tell you one thing. Next time just tell them that you are not interested. Don't get upset. I mean thats just like you could be excited about something and want to tell everyone and they directly tell you whatever and they don't want to hear it. I'm saved and no everyone I come across I don't stop and say "do you know Jesus". But I do share my faith because I'm proud of it. You would be suprised how many people wish that someone would have told them about Jesus a long time ago.  So if you don't believe don't challenge just be upfront and tell them you are not interested. You never know why someone chose Christ or if they are newly Christians (so it takes time to find out more). I'm not saying you are wrong, but maybe she felt comfortable enough with you as a client to share her beliefs.

I have to disagree with you there.  Freedom of religion also means freedom FROM religion.  femmemuscle also handled it better then me, I would have asked her politely once or twice, but if someone keeps pushing it, I get irate.  I would have spoken to the manager and made sure they never got my business ever again.

okay..when the topic was brought up..i was pretty firm on my boundaries..believe it...bottom line was...while doing my hair..she'd keep bringing it up again...have you ever met people who just won't let things go?  she tried a few times...i learned through observation over the years..ignorance keeps repeating itself, or preaches loudly..intelligence knows when to stop or works quietly..

Her daughter would apparently watch on the sidelines while the mother would basically keep haranguing folks about her spiritual beliefs...she was usually the victor...people would apparently just say whatever it was she wanted to hear in order to get their hair done from what i'm learning...

It didn't take long, nor very much intelligence to cut through the chase..and like i said..the daughter just broke down and started crying right there..it wasn't a matter of time...just the right question/statement..and the poor thing folded...

in my travels there have been two things i've learned to stay away from religion and politics...it's not appropriate to bring up this personal issue in a professional environment..by the way, unfortunately, she is her own independent contractor..and good, i talked with her on the phone a day ago, and i was told she had learned her lesson..

No, Latresse - make no assumptions that i let anything "escalate"..i have no tolerance for drama..one look at my total being and you would know that immediately...being far more experienced in this arena, all i needed to do was give them back their issues - and let them deal with them..which, apparently, they didn't do very well...also, thank you for sharing that you have a bachelors...i usually don't do that...it doesn't mean very much to anyone in general - only the person who's sharing that information..

I will stick to the topic and say..that bringing up religion in a professional environment is not a good idea...nor will it keep clients coming in packs..LaTresse, i whole-heartedly agree especially with syrene123, and the others - people who "share" their religion without consent tend to be ignorant, selfish and boring...plus very presumptious of others situations without even being there...you've made an assumption about myself as well as the situation altogether..and please, don't preach...it's not attractive..written or verbally...certainly, after reading your material i am thoroughly convinced that what works for you - definitely does not work for me..

i did not find what the beautician said "offensive", nor was I immediately "offended"..i usually like an challenge of intellect..it's stimulating and educational..this was far from it...just the average rhetoric that i hear from the average garden variety of zealots.

it's good that you are proud of your spirituality, and your bachelor's degree...but share it when it is appropriate...I'm proud of my bust size...but i don't go around sharing it with all my damn clients!

i had nothing to "prove", young lady..the 19 year old brought it up....yet, she had no idea what it meant..though she was using it to bombast science for some strange reason..

I will always feel good about who i am - with or without your permission...and thank you for sharing...

i was not sharing my beliefs at all...my personal beliefs are at a  level you'll never attain....i will restate again..for your benefit..I felt it was inappropriate to discuss religion in a professional environment...it's very simple...not a belief...not at all..

please, do not also assume that because someone has shown ignorance that i make them "less than"..that is so not cool..no one will ever be less than myself..ignorance and stupidity are two different ways of describing someone..the 19 year old was not stupid..far from it...but they both put on a very brilliant display of ignorance...pretty much like the one who just gave the aforementioned post...