I guess I wont give up on them yet! I am going to try the hair spray on one of my clients that slips alot and see how it goesThey do like the removal better than any other method me too !
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iv not had breakage but as jenny said sometimes its v difficult to take them out and i also have only used them on the toprather than a fullhead and i only had them in a few weeks.if youra bit impatient you can have trouble. i ended up just cutting one out. but having said that i think they are better than fusions cos there isnt any glue and they arnt heavy at all so they dont pull on the scalp
mmmm I'm glad I came back to check out what you guys said cos I'm hopefully doing my install today and tomorrow. I thought that because extentubes tended to slip when your hair was wet that human hair shrank when it was wet but I've obviously got it back to front somewhere along the line. I'm going to install extentubes with dry hair then and hairspray, I'll post picture as soon as I've done it, can't wait xxxx
Jenn...I think that's a very logical way to look at it. I think it has something to do with the cuticle layers lifting/swelling. I don't have the Milady textbook anymore...so I can't get too "exact"
Sherrie... ? I don't think it's going to create some "super" bond from doing it on wet hair. I don't think the result would give any different result than installing on dry hair and shampooing after. Ultimately...if you're gonna get slippage, it's gonna happen regardless. Like I mentioned earlier...hair is more prone to breakage when wet(because of stretching) and I think it would make blending a challenge.(Ever had a cut that looks great wet and like sh*t dry?) Hair is two different beasts wet to dry!
I'm gonna have to vote dry with hairspray! Althogh I do love these experements! And can't wait to hear actual results!
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Hmm...well maybe it is OK then. I do know the tubes are more vulnerable to slipping when wet, but as long as you let the hair dry after the install and didn't brush/comb it while it was still wet, they may be perfectly fine and even more secure. It'd definitely be an interesting experiment. :)
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hmmmm...what I remember from the past disscussions on Quinns board, when microrings first came into the picture was that the hair is in its normal shrunken stage when dry. But when wet, the water causes the hair shaft to swell, and then it shrinks back up as it dries. I am getting old though....and they say the memory is the first thing to go!
This is gonna drive me nuts now, and I cant search back far enough on the Quinn board to find the old threads!
sherrie - Hair gets longer and skinnier when wet I'm pretty sure.
So it would allow for making the tube tighter around the hair.
but you'd have to be careful not to get too close to the head cause
then they would pull when dry.
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OK girls this thread is confusing me. I was under the impression that the hair actually expands when wet...so then it would actually not be good to install on wet hair. Or am I wrong on this?
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The number I have for short 2 long is 1-877-670-3021 I've wondered about their method too. They also offer training.
I actually think doing an extentube install while your hair is wet is a good idea, as long as you didn't install the tube right up against your head. Give room for you hair to shrink back up. I think the sections would be a lot neater and you wouldn't get added breakage with the flyaways getting in the way.
Mine are going on 2 weeks now. I have lost about 4, in the nape and sides. I lost four in one day with shrinkies! I am impressed so far with their performance. I happened to feel one slip the other day while I was curling my hair...so I just grabbed the pliers to retighten. I'm thinking a retighten service would be key at about two weeks, and evey two there after. I took the top row out a few days ago...it was too visible. I saw no damage.
As far as performance...they have exceeded my expectations. The tubes are on virgin hair(I haven't colored in months) and I have to shampoo every other day. Again, there has been minimal loss!
As Jenn mentioned above...I used hairspray on my sections during the install. After the dish soap, my fine hair was too flyaway.It helped keep my sections tidy and obviously didn't negatively impact the install.
I can't officially say tubes/rings cause no damage...however I think someone would either have to clamp the hell out of the tubes and/or the wearer would have to be ruff to their lifespan!
short to long dose not have web sight but call and they will send a catolog.Funny thing about installing wet, when I took euro locks class they said you could install wet if you wanted. Slipage is easy to deal with for DIY but for clients it's a pain to come back all the time. By the way I pre tipped 300 tips with epoxy to day I love how easy it was but mix little at a time or it drys up!!
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I've had extendtubes for my last three installations....I love them. I have used hairpiece.com one's and Hair Candy ones...both hold well and I've not had problems with taking them out. Actually, I removed twice by myself. I didn't notice any significant breakage. I just had my extensions from EP put in on Friday with the extendtubes and so far, so good. They will slip, but maintenance has been easy. Plus, I like that there isn't residue like with shrinkies.
Amanda: I don't know if it would be best to wet your roots. I think it's important to do a dry application with this stuff; some people actually spray the roots with some hairspray, though, to reinforce "the hold" during the application. And just from a practical point of view, I think it would be more difficult to apply the tubes if the hair's wet and, thus, more slippery.
Has anyone tried this before?
:)
Edited to say: All of these metal rings have a tendency to chip over time, and I'd be concerned that having them be wet from the onset would also shorten the life of the tubes. Perhaps you want to try this on a certain section of the head to see if they perform differently than those applied dry before you do an entire head that way? :)
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Amanda - Dont put them too close into your head then. cause ow!
that could pull when it dries... Wouldn't want the hair ripping
out from the root. But i think it makes sense that it would hold
tighter with lelss chance of slipage.
I'm going to wet my roots where I'm installing the extentubes so hopefully there will be no slippage if my hair is already shrunk when I apply them, what do you guys think xxx
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They do like the removal better than any other method me too !
