OT Hair dye - What do you like?

I'll have to check when i get home.  but yeah.  I'd double process it.  heck I'm planning on double processing the Indian hair I'm getting from fina and I only need to go to about a 4 (extension color not dye color).  But you might have good results with it the hicolor as the second step of the double process.

I figure I'll have to do several tries on teeny swtches snipped from that weft until I get a color process that gets me what I want. 

and yes bleach (either powder or oil) mixed with peroxide is step one of the double process action to get the hair from black to whatever.  remember there is no reason whatsoever to go lighter than you need to it only causes unnecessary damage

first off the rule of coloring is this-

color does not ever remove color. Only bleach.  No matter what the pacakge says its just not so.

also,  who knows wha is on the hair you tried to lift.

 

TanglesRC wrote: Amm, you really dont need to darken first then lighten, you could very eaisily get what ever color darker you want to use, get some good professional bleach and developer and get some foil and a rat tail comb. alternate the dark in one foil then the bleach in another foil. this way you are not double processing the dark ones. your a pro at doing your own hair, this should be very easy for you. when you do the darker color in foil, make sure you get the root as well even if you go off the foil. When you do the bleach, dont go all the way to the root, it will bleed and make a mess. good luck

Thanks for helping me, Tangles. Seriously, I have absolutely no clue
when it comes to this as I've never strayed too far from my natural
color.

I bought Loreal 30 vol Oreor Creme Developer from Sallys and
HiColor in Honey Blonde & Natural Blonde for Dark Hair to try to lift a
sample of Indian hair. It didn't work. It didn't look anything like the
sample strand they used for display. It turned very brown/reddish
and brassy. I mixed like the box said and wrapped it in foil and put it
under low heat. Do I need to use bleach and developer first or bleach
and peroxide? How do I turn dark hair very blonde and then color it
from there?

For my own hair, I also used the same 30 vol Developer and got the
Loreal Preference permanent in 2 shades of blonde; light beige and
blonde temptress (ooooooo!). Each has a 25 minute automatic
develop time. I mixed per the package, and saturated just a few
strands. Nada. I see no difference. I tried it on a strand of human
hair that I have and I don't see that it worked there either.

Is the developer strong enough? Maybe I should take this as a sign?

yikes this was over a year ago. 

ummm I know I used a 40 vol generic developer and a powder bleach.  Not sophisticated tools at all.  The original bleaching (not the screw the world i want platinum belaching) was done with the ends first and then the roots since the roots develop faster due to the heat of the head.  That was adequate for my original purpose.  Then I colored it I think bubble gum pink with veggie dye.  fine.  Then I used a wide variety of methods to get the pink out.  hot oil, dish soap, clarifying shampoo, etc, over the course of a couple weeks.  Pink was gone.  Then it was on to 'I want big platinum streaks.  So I tried bleaching th ends first.  which was complicated.  So first I did the roots and then moved the bleach down to the ends forlike that last maybe 10 minutes.  So now my roots are lighter than the ends but still not light enough.  So I Did the ends first in the next step then the roots.  still getting nowhere.   correction not nowhere just not enough progress.   I back off for a while and use a toner to make it look livable for the week.  next weekend I start hacking at it again.  My hair felt like ass.  But on I went.  Then I decided maybe I didn't get all of the previous color out (there had been brown die on at some point though I had thought that had grown out.).  So I used colorfix half anf half with shampoo to do a soft color removal(on the far ends only).  You can imagine what my hair felt like at this point.  I head off to work monday morning all kinds of pissed.  BY tuesday night I know better but I'm at it again.  I apply the bleach to my ends and go to move it up to the roots and voila broken hair.  Still not pale yellow.

I mean I knew better.  I just got pissy.  decided that I had hair of steel and sanity be damned here we go.  I deserved what I got.  but like I said at least it was only chunks not my whole head.  some of them broke some of them didn't and none of them got to the color I wanted.

I was thinking if i ever did it again I'd use 7th stage.  But really I'm going to graduate next year and get a job and if I want to be blonde I'll be able to afford someone who knows what's going on.

oh I knew that.  Oh yes I did.  But it just wasn't light enough yet.  And I didn't care that it felt like straw.  And I knew better.  and yeah.  I was umm being stubborn rather than remotely logical.  something like 'G#&^%$#T! I don't care if all my hair falls off as long as it's actually blonde when it does!'  Lesson to be learned.  My hair just isn't ever going to be blonde.  at least not that blonde.   All the processing in the world and even the broken mess wasn't light yellow. somewhere in the dark yellow light orange regime.  

Of course I'm hoping not to go back to my crazy coloring and bleaching ways.  But my sister is always a target.

that's cool.  I figured it wasn't that big a deal but really didn't need to chemically burn off more of my hair trying it out.  arghh.  I even knew that I'd bleached those sections one too many times and I shouldn't have done it.  at least it wasn't my whole head.

This is how my hair is colored (not by myself though) but I do have one suggestions - when you wash it out just make sure to do all the bleash first and get it all washed out before you take out the dark foils!

I did this with red and bleach and wasn't careful enough with rinsing and ended up with pink streaks!  I kind of liked it but I had to tone it out for work.

Edited by LauraR

i use Redken and i also use Paul Mitchell Bleach.

Amm, you really dont need to darken first then lighten, you could very eaisily get what ever color darker you want to use, get some good professional bleach and developer and get some foil and a rat tail comb.

alternate the dark in one foil then the bleach in another foil. this way you are not double processing the dark ones. your a pro at doing your own hair, this should be very easy for you.

when you do the darker color in foil, make sure you get the root as well even if you go off the foil. When you do the bleach, dont go all the way to the root, it will bleed and make a mess.

good luck

I've used stuff like Feria and Colorsilk...just over the counter type coloring and nothing lasts more than a couple weeks and it's gone. Wonder why it won't stick?

I desperately need some lowlights on top but colorists want $100 for a few streaks.

Is there something at Sally's I can use to darken a bit and then put lighter streaks back in?

My bangs and crown looks so matte and unexciting right now.

Like the Colorgloss idea. I'll pick some of that up.

Edited by amm

I'm really lucky that clairol loving care works on all but my most stubborn grey.  I have a crayon thing for those if they are exposed.  I used to use  demipermanent from Sally's, wella in #3?  arghh hair dye colors versus hair color colors.  they all match reasonably well at that end of the spectrum.  I only stopped becasue I'm trying to cut back on chemicals in general.  I have too many sections that have so many different combo's of chemical treatment and no two are the same.  figured I'd drop it back for a while...