QuoteReplyTopic: Pro Tac Help! Posted: May 09 2006 at 5:31pm
Yup...that's the GREATEST Stuff since sliced bread for me!! Didn't like there other products to combat frizzies but the straightner is the bomb. I put it on before I blow dry and then a little on as I flat iron or curl.... and dab a little on during the week....cause I only wash my hair 1x a week...sooooo....it works fantastic if you have dry frizzy hair... just use a flat iron and it makes my hair smooooooth.
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Current install-Bohyme Bodywave #30 and #14 in the straight hair/ they didn't have the #14 in bodywave, so I mixed them...works great!
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You hit it, Autumn. Right on the head. When people first come to the board to ask about GLs or Hairlocs, etc., that's the first thing they ask: how long do they last? "The stylist said they could last 6 months," stuff like that. And what happens? Everyone on the board screams in horror: NEVER KEEP YOUR EXTENSIONS IN THAT LONG!! OMG I've read it a thousand times.
Re: sew in wefts, I never had problems with them except they got loose in 3 weeks and had to have them redone every 4. No itching, no smelling...just loosening. And that was a pain, but my hair suffered no damage whatsoever from 15 yrs of sew ins. With Protac, it's the same time frame but way easier and cheaper to redo than sew ins.
You're probably also right about the Protac tape itself being a newer adhesive formula than toupee tapes of the past. That's what's so beautiful about technology . I love Protac.
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About the chunks of highlights, someone on here had a good demo on
how to do it. Usually in the pro-tac I put one full weft, and above it 1inch
strips (or whatever size you want)
It's in my head, but sometimes things in my head aren't as clear when I
am typing it.
misslou- yes you could the anchoring it with a shr****** or microlink.
Lots of people here have done it and love it. I just can't help but wonder if
the rest of the protac slips, then it's all just holding on by those 2
microlinks....ouch!!! Sounds painful!
And yeah, the brick laying thing works best for me too!
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youuuuu are so Right Syren123....The tape is toupe' ....although I'm wondering about the actual 'protac' ....it posibly could be an industrial tape used for various asundy things....two sided tape has been around for a lonnnng time. The first extensions I actually had were 'the sewn in wefts' and the yr. was about 1983, and yip, kept'em for 3 months and they grew into a rats nest at the nape of my neck. The amt. of care given didn't matter. The hair just grows and the weft get loose..etc. etc. It did itch and wasn't at all comfortable. Took 'em out on a trip to Hawaii and my hair had grown about 3 inches, but I lost half of it from the technique....I believe.
One reason I think the tape method is so good is that it requires the wearer to renew the extensions at a shorter rate than links or fusion (strand by strand) because my clients try to get as much wear as possible, getting 'touch ups' etc. going far beyond what is really safe to do with extensions. This is why, from my point of view, the selling aspect of Great Lengths as long wearing (6 months) is not very accurate. We all know that length of time isn't real good on the natural hair. I see a lot of damage, (ie pull spots, balding, thiness) from the repetitive Hair Extension wearers that don't give their scalp and hair a rest. I've become very strick with my extension clients making sure they realize that the year after yr. of having extensions with little to no break, is similar to having acrylic nails over and over without giving the nails a breather, so-to-speak.
thanks autumn1, it's just MSPaint that comes w/ Windows. i'm an
artist for a video game company who doesn't own a digicam so i usually
end up painting my ideas and examples in photoshop, but i was strapped
for time on another's pc, so i just used MSPain.
what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac
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I've only used the protac 4 times now, on clients and once on myself and think it's really the most state of the art technique.....on the market today. It's so new that no one in my area knows about it (Central Coast CA) Ya can't beat the time element and the simplicity of the technique.
LOL! It's toupee tape! One of the oldest, lowest tech methods available.
I'm not slamming you, autumn - just laughing because it's like wefts - you should have read the bad press here a year or two ago about wefts - too bulky, yuck, yick, itchy, smelly, blahblahblah....and now, they're the best thing since sliced bread.
Just confirms the adage, 'Everything old is new again.'
But I'm in total agreement about Protac tape. It is hands down the best method, at least for me. And I've used wefted hair for 16 yrs. The last 2 I've done all the strand methods - fusion, links, shrinkies, pinchbraids - and have always come back to wefts. Looks the most natural, easiest to deal with. Add Protac to that and it's so win-win it makes me want to cry. In a good way.
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Oh honey, how flattering...I don't think anyones every called me brillliant before! Really makes my Day! We're just all Hair Wizards, aren't we! Actually, my specialty in ext. is custom coloring....since i think color and hair just go together like peas and carrots. Before I start tho, wow what a FANTASTIC Graphic you did! How'd you do it? Photoshop? It's really cool!
I use cuticleless hair for the most part because there is zero tangling ever and the hair stays shiny and pristene, (since it's coated with a resin.) The only drawback to this type of hair is that it can't be colored in the traditional sense....with hair color or bleached. I have discovered tho, that it can be stained into beautiful shades of all sorts with 'hair color filler'. As there is no cuticle for the color to attach to, this 'filler', works great. Now for the highlights and 'streaks/chunks with wefts....using the tape, I alternate two or three (or more) splices of various hair shades onto the tape....that's one way and the easiest, I think. Another way is to custom blend the hair in small bulk bundles and carefully smash the hair onto the sticky side of the tape.....carefully dab some Liguid Gold onto the hair, sparingly, then fold the tape down (sandwich style) hit it with the straight iron or wand with heat and wha-lah, ....there it is. Do remember to brush the non-wefted hair rather briskly once it's taped, because there will be some shedding. If you get most of that out before attaching it to the client (or yourself) then you won't have as much shedding or any at all. Let me (All of us, on the Board) know how it goes!!
and to keep the edges from curling up, couldn't you use a microlink (i
have extras) to gather a bit of hair from the weft and around it to
"lock" it in place?
example: the black square is the microlink with your (red) hair
coming from around the (green) protac, as well as some of the (brown)
weft hair. would this work? (excuse the bad drawing)
PS: how would you add streaks/chunks of color to the weft?
Edited by misslou
what I'm wearing: 1 pkg 18" DLux SS #2 and protac
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hey there naked eye, you're by no means a stick in the mud! Since I'm a new-found believer in the tape methods....here's something I did that seem to take care of that 'conturing' challenge of the top roll...and actually now that I think about it the whole head. I cut stips of about 2 1/2" to 3" wide of the tape and did the brick layer method on my own head to see how it felt. It was much better than a one long piece in the back (from ear to ear say) and absoluted no bunching or tauntness on the head or hair. Kind of reminds me of when sewing something on a curve or rounded edge and cutting the material so that the edge lays flat. With smaller strip sizes up higher in the back, the head is rounder....good grief, enough! ha
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Thanks Nakedeye, that's a great idea to sort of seal the sandwich-protac together with heat. I've also gone over it rather quickly acouple of times with a small flat iron (before removing the paper strips from the adhesive part, and also used my wand once too, which worked fine. I've only used the protac 4 times now, on clients and once on myself and think it's really the most state of the art technique.....on the market today. It's so new that no one in my area knows about it (Central Coast CA) Ya can't beat the time element and the simplicity of the technique.
thanks again, autumn
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Oh yes, I did that too. One time my wefts were just a wee bit wet (and I
was anxious) and I realized luckily before the install that they wouldn't
stick in the pro-tacs.
Also, I blow dry my hair and just wait about 15 minutes, sometimes the
heat fools you and makes it feel like it's dry, but once it cools down you
realize it's not fully dry.
Oh yeah, one last thing (sorry I've had lots of trial and error with
pro-tacs) when you fold the tapes over on the wefts, blast it with the blow
dryer on high, then take like the back of the comb or something hard,
and really press it down on there. Then, when installing, do the same,
blast it and press it down really hard in your hair. It seems like it helps
the tapes melt some and stick better.
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AH HA! I know now what I did wrong!!!! I colored and washed my hair, no conditioner. It may have still been a little too damp for the install..... plus I'd just colored my wefts and thought they were dry enough for the install... maybe not
Thank you SO much for the advice. This weekend I plan on taking them out and reinstalling!
Sheri
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I thought I'd remembered hearing bad things about the dark
Proclaim. Chrissy V dark brown, on the other hand, is a cinch to
remove. I guess I'll just keep using that. My one bottle of Chrissy V
is really lasting and hasn't gotten gunky yet. I've been keeping it in
the refrigerator and only taking it out right when I need it, then
putting it right back in, and storing it in an airtight container.
As far as products to keep the wefts from falling out with Protac, I've
found that for me moisturizing shampoo and conditioner do nothing
to cause the tapes to loosen. I do install them very carefully, in
clean, dry hair. I use Sherrie's technique of pushing the hair down
hard onto the tapes using the side of a comb. I push and push and
run my fingers along the top and along the sides of the bond, making
sure that my hair is pressed tightly to every place on the tape. I
don't wet my hair or shampoo for a few days after installation, either.
Once the Protac has "set" I can brush my hair and tug on it hard,
even when it is wet, and have no slippage of the tapes.
The other thing I've found that seems to be keeping the wefts in
more securely is to place them in smaller pieces rather than in one
long piece around my head. I find that the flatter the wefts lay
against my head the longer the tapes seem to hold. With my head at
least, there is no way to place "horseshoe" shaped wefts completely
flat. I also find it much easier to get really good placement of the
wefts when the are not so long.
Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE!
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Oh wow, the dark proclaim, made me want to cry. It was not good at all. I
didn't use the shampoo, but I used just about everything else you can
imagine to get it out, nothing worked besides combing and pulling!!
I would not suggest using that.
As well as what nursie said, amen. Well put. I've found I can even get
conditioner on the tapes and they still stay!! My vices: Leaving it wet for a
while, pulling (like combing) while wet.
Before installing, get the hair as dried out as possible, I wash my hair with
dishsoap, like, 5 times, then blowdry it to death, so it's REALLY dry, and
then install. I think that's the most important thing of all...
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