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    Posted: July 06 2006 at 12:18am

I have used Giovanni hair for over eight years and never have I had any problems and never have I had problems with EP hair. I truly do believe it is the hair. I even curl a put a rubber band around some of the hair I had left over and flat iron it, it is just not right. But thanks afro puff for the info.

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Fair enough, I have no reputation to uphold...its just me:)
I was able to wear it down most days, I just flat ironed and curled slightly...but its sticky humid hot right now, so buns are good too...
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Originally posted by 1hairlover 1hairlover wrote:

I had the gsc hair install on Thursday and I hate it. It is dry and coarse. I should have stuck with Giovanni. I sat for 16 hours getting micro braids with this hair. I haven't shampoo and condition it yet, but I really don't think that is going to help. I will wear this for a month and it has to go. The braids are so small I need them to grow out a little to take them down.

 

How did your braider braid your hair? Did she fold it? You can't fold hair that has the cuticles aligned because if you do it will turn into a big bushy mess. Even with Giovanni hair, it'll turn bushy and tangled if it's remi and folded. If your braider has to fold the hair make sure the overlap part is all braided up and not exposed. Boyhme, Adorable and Synthetic hair is good for braids because it's not remi hair and can be folded.

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Well tbctbc, you where lucky because I can only wear my gcs hair in a bun not even in a sexy ponytail, because again it looks like HAY. I have a reputation to uphold and my clients will wonder what the hell is wrong with my hair. I can't let them see me slip, so I will wear this in a cute bun then take it out and replace it with Giovanni hair, and they will never know.And yes the hair is cheap, but it ain't worth a dime.

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I thought the GCS was dry also, but not THAT bad...I had it in for about 2 weeks (could have had it in longer, and can definitely use again...but I have a big thing this weekend, so I took out my install), and did a number of swims and washes, plus I dyed it with 10vol....it tangled more than my premium indian, and Amms elite remy, but wasnt "the worst"...plus is wasn't too expensive...I got 4oz. of #8 double-wefted for $48.50

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Yes I am a stylist of 20years in Long Beach.                 
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Originally posted by 1hairlover 1hairlover wrote:

I live in Long Beach , California and I have three colors of the GSC Hair
#4,#8,#14 a beautiful combination but the hair is like His and Her is is really bad. I went to my salon and shampoo with Biolage products, blowdried and flat iron and it is still bad. Day by day I'm think about taking it down, know matter if it hurts some. The girl who braided my hair call today and wants me to take picture with it down. I told her it was not going to happen, I can only wear it in a bun.
Sorry to hear that girl.. Hopefully, you'll be able to exchange the unopened hair with Wagman..
 
You're a stylist right???


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I will call, I didn't have time today, but first thing on Wednesday I can't wait to hear what they have to say.
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your not too far from me, i am in Rancho Cucamonga
i have two clients who come to me from long beach.
too bad the hair isnt working for u, have u called wagman to tell them? i am not sure if they will refund or exchange, but they still should be told. could be a bad batch?
 
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I live in Long Beach , California and I have three colors of the GSC Hair
#4,#8,#14 a beautiful combination but the hair is like His and Her is is really bad. I went to my salon and shampoo with Biolage products, blowdried and flat iron and it is still bad. Day by day I'm think about taking it down, know matter if it hurts some. The girl who braided my hair call today and wants me to take picture with it down. I told her it was not going to happen, I can only wear it in a bun.
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Originally posted by 1hairlover 1hairlover wrote:

I had the gsc hair install on Thursday and I hate it. It is dry and coarse. I should have stuck with Giovanni. I sat for 16 hours getting micro braids with this hair. I haven't shampoo and condition it yet, but I really don't think that is going to help. I will wear this for a month and it has to go. The braids are so small I need them to grow out a little to take them down.

Wow... Hate to hear when people have bad hair days.. Just out of curiosity, you got the COLORED GCS hair?? Which color did you get??
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hairlover, where are u located
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Thanks nursie I just came back from my salon and I shampoo and condition with biolage hydrating products, blowdried and flat iron with my chi flat irons and it still feels like HAY!!!!!!! I hate it I don't think I will make a month with this. I can only wear it in a bun or maybe pin up messy, but that is taking a big chance. Oh well . I think I am going to to hairlocs in the middle the crown and then do  micro braids around the hairline . Hairlocs will take about 3hrs and the micros should be maybe 5hrs, so that cuts my time in half. I HATE THIS HAIR

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oh hairlover, im so sorry that it isnt hair you love, i remember your post about the 16 hour marathon and your sore arse!!
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I had the gsc hair install on Thursday and I hate it. It is dry and coarse. I should have stuck with Giovanni. I sat for 16 hours getting micro braids with this hair. I haven't shampoo and condition it yet, but I really don't think that is going to help. I will wear this for a month and it has to go. The braids are so small I need them to grow out a little to take them down.

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Wow Amm, thanks a ton!!! So all the good things I have heard about the hair you were selling WAS/IS the GSC.  That is good to know.
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Like my Dad (RIP) usta say 'make it plain'. And that graphic sure makes it plain enough that even i understand. Thanks AMM.  
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Sure thing!

The chart for this hair looks like this:



The colored hair is the textured only hair taken one step further. Texture patterns on the colored hair will differ slightly because the extra processing weakens the texture and makes it less defined.

For dark hair users, I would suggest the texture only because you can color it up a few shades. For light blondes, the colored hair is the best option. The textured only can be colored up to blonde but it's definitely not as nice as the hair that's already colored by the manufacturer.
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ahhh...thank you for the clarification!
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It's all GCS on premium wefts. Even the samples WP sends out is GCS hair. One classification of the hair is processed to texture and color and is more expensive, the other is processed to texture and runs a bit less.
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