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    Posted: October 09 2006 at 8:03pm
i agree.
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barb- just jumping in here to say this and i will not say anymore-
this is a nice friendly forum of profeessionals and Diyers HELPING one another- if you dont have anything nice to contribute here- and you dont come on here to do nothing other then cause stir ups- then PLEASE do us all a favor, and dont participate on this board-
it doesnt bring life to anyone with all this banter back and forth and it certainly doesnt make you look good either.
with that said, if you can participate in a nice manner like everyone else, then you are welcome, if not, i am sure you too will be banned next.
 
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Malibu, thank you! Should I help you to figure out who said that to whom first? Divavocals to me or I did to her? Thanks again for making it clear!Clap
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Originally posted by Barbarab Barbarab wrote:

What is it double drawn and single drawn hair? Disapprove I am waiting for samples. Should I adress that issue?


Yeah, like you said in another post Babs, do your own researchWink

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Originally posted by Barbarab Barbarab wrote:

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They do not know single drawn from double drawn and they certainly don't know the source for the hair they buy and use..
 
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What is it double drawn and single drawn hair? Disapprove I am waiting for samples. Should I adress that issue?
 
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I would suggest that you do a you search through the past posts here.. plenty of posts here already which cover these definitions. You might also talk to your stylist about this since she's already recommended a particular kind of hair to you, she should be able to explain these definitions to you..


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They do not know single drawn from double drawn and they certainly don't know the source for the hair they buy and use..
 
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What is it double drawn and single drawn hair? Disapprove I am waiting for samples. Should I adress that issue?
 
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I really do think that Bohyme coats will silicone!  Just last week I used one of their wefts to pre-tip it myself, and I could feel the greasiness on my fingers from handling it.  I was able to use keratin glue to make tips, but Bohyme tips (at least the hand made one, I'm not sure about the 'ready made' ones) still do break down upon wearing.
 
Bohyme is still my favorite brand of hair though.
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Second the bohyme....pretty new to extensions, but I got bohyme first and I am just so impressed...I also torture my hair daily like Sherrie does, too!:)
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I agree, whatever hair fits that individuals budget is why there are so many brands and so many choices to make. That is why I am glad this board is here to help professionals like myself and other's learn as much as you can. Consider the fact that I am in a small town between four major cities and there are probably a handful of stylist who know anything about beautiful hair that is reusable and simply flawless. A lot of people don't see the end result that you still pay more for just buying regular beauty supply hair.All I'm saying is there would be alot  of upset BSS if more individuals knew about  quote "the good hair". So I say to each it's own and a lot of people just don't get on the internet and search learn. I guarantee you more DIYer's on this board know more about single drawn, double drawn hair than most licensed professionals. I am not putting the professionals down, but I am one of them and I sure as he** didn't know anything about any of this until I found this board. Does this company you speak of send out samples?
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Aninnina, Whatever Bohyme is doing it's working. You should try that hair instead next timeThumbs%20Up

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Well I'm not sure where to begin.. but off the top of my head Aninnina, I do think you are generalizing a bit much here.. Not all Americans buy cheap Asian hair, not ALL name brands use Indian hair and certainly not ALL Asian hair is stick straight or over processed.. Unprocessed Asian hair is readily available, and it is QUITE lovely too.. Lastly, you are aware that India is considered by many to be a part of Asia??

That said, the "average" extensions wearer does not know Indian from Asian from Rabbit hair. For that matter there are quite a few hair stylists not just in the United States, but worldwide who also are not that familiar with the differences between the various hair being sold out there.. They do not know single drawn from double drawn and they certainly don't know the source for the hair they buy and use..

For example last Saturday I met one of the HEAD stylists from Jose Eber's salon.. and I had to help assist him in selecting hair for one of his celebrity clients. He had purchased hair from His & Hers and well.. let's just say she was having a hair crisis, and needed that hair replaced.. He did not know Indian hair from horse hair and I won't even go into the long explanation of what remy hair is that I had with him.. He really thought hair on a weft was just hair on a weft..

The point is this, just because you wear or install extensions does not mean you necessarily know about extensions hair or the quality of the product.. The women on this forum are a pretty rare exception to this however.. There's quite a bit of knowledge here from both wearers and stylists alike..


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Ive been burnt too many times...Ill stick with a brand that is tried and trusted. I have worn blonde extensions for over 7 years, and have TRIED just about everything out there...and some more expensive than Bohyme. I would not be still wearing it if it wasnt any good. Trust me...I have looked high and low for something comparable to Bohyme in the blonde range...I have yet to find anything.  It has nothing to do with the name, it has to do with the fact that its wears well for me. 
 
Of course Bohyme hair is processed, as is all hair that is available in different textures and colors. It is not virgin hair, nor do they claim it to be.
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And why do big brands use only indian hair? Great Length, Hairdreams and also smaller brands only use indian hair....
And for good hair, I dont have to buy from a brand. Really good hair is availible at the big market for less....
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I think Bohyme is too expensive for asian hair...  There are reputable seller in China who have good hair, and for bohyme you must pay also the brand....

The Bohyme looks treated, how it lays in the package, it is not natural hair. The wave looks like sooo exactly, every hair looks like the other one... I may say, they also put something on it, cause the shine for treated hair is not normal.

I also had good sellers in china, but the "trend" goes to natural hair, not treated and it bust be fine hair which is easy to handle. No extra shampoos or conditioners.... And fine hair is indian hair, and for really fine hair, its great. If you have course (my english :-( ) hair, asian hair may fit....



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hmmmm, I use Bohyme and its certainly not what I would consider cheap asain hair, it has held up for me (blonde) BETTER than any other hair I have every worn. I PREFER the asian hair to indian. I TORTURE hair literally with daily washing, blowdrying and hot curling irons and have worn wefts of Bohyme for over 4 months and are still in good enough shape to reuse again. The thicker diameter of asian hair is more 'durable' for me. The finer indian hair does not hold up to my abuse. For others it may work fine.
 
Also I wanted to point out that I have discussed the silicone issue with Bohyme, and from what Im told on numerous occassions is that they DO NOT use any silicone coatings on the hair.


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Really with silicone coating? That is the typical way, how asian sell the hair. Dont buy indian hair in china....

Write me PM I have a very good seller and the prices are great. 1 kg, natural indian hair, length 24 inches plus, about 350 Dollar... I buy every 3 month about 10 kg hair from him, and never had bad experience with him... And the hair is definetly not treated or with silicone coatings....
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I also buy Indian hair, and it still is treated with the silicone coating.  If you have a good source of Indian hair with no coating, than please tell us where to get it.
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Thank you...

But its never so fine, as the indian hair. Last week I got an order from Burma, the hair is really babyfine, and also mostly straight. Not wavy like indian hair, but the price of indian hair. In Germany they also sell asian hair, and 3 months later they are mad cause the hair breaks and is not very nice....

So, for me: I pay once more for good hair, as buying 3 times bad hair... :-(
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im just gonna guess that asian hair keeps being sold because some people/some where like it, and it fits into their budget...its too straight for me, but my straight haired friends prefer it over my indian hair
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