QuoteReplyTopic: undetectable strands/ invisible strand method???? Posted: May 30 2007 at 3:56pm
What you could do also if you want is email them and ask for a phone consult. They will call you and just double check what she says about the method because this was about 2 months I spoke with her but i remember it was more money than I could handle including putting her up for a few days.
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I guess by micro point link I meant more like this:
http://www.cyberhair1.com/micropoint.aspx
As far as i can tell, they are doing the same procedure as this but just using more or longer hair and doing it many many times as oppossed to just where the person needs it specifically like in the case of a bald spot or area of thinning. I think thats what is going on here and why the steep price tag.
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I haven't been on that site lately but I think she said she was trained by one of the other MI instructors.
Are you saying she actually attaches extension hair with a microlink and then covers it up with hair and ties it off? Now that would be very interesting. I was going to make my own micropoint type of thing with the little craft sore beads and pre-tipped hair siliconed or something inside. I may still do it. We're always making up stuff
Is it all the same method though? Frankly Im a little confused. The one that she does sounds like a microlink where they take one of your natural growing strands and then wrap it around 4 strands of extension hair and somehow tie it with a crochet needle. So its only your naturally growing hair holding each "knot". Is this the same method that they use on balding areas but they are just doing an entire head with longer bulk extensions? Thats why it takes so darn long and she said they have 2 stylists working on you at once. One on each side but sheesh, that just seems so painstaking for the stylist and client. In a way i can see the reason for the high cost but Im sure its done cheaper in other places with pretty similar results?
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She's the most expensive one I've come across too. Unless Jesus is installing them Himself, I can't see anyone in their right mind paying that much money for them unless they just didn't know they could have gotten them done for $5000 cheaper. She has lost her dog gone mind!!!
That was the lady I spoke to on the phone about the method. She said it can take up to a week to do a full head on caucasian hair but can last up to a year with proper care. I think the price she quoted was between 4000-6000 depending on what you wanted to do. It was about two months ago that I spoke to her though. I asked if there was any kind of sealant put on the knot to keep it there and she said no which made me doubtful it would last that long but I could be wrong. Its totally undetectible. I dont know, I just cant see spending that much on something that might literally wash down the shower drain but she said they offer a guarantee on them and they really should at that price! At least a sew in you know that aint going nowhere soon.
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Wow! Thanks so much for all this research! All I did was call the one place I could find and talked on the phone. I might look into this but have decided to try sew in wefts for the first time. I have always just done the fusion/strand by strand method and never really been totally satisfied with it. Mainly because no matter what, you can feel those bonds and I really dislike the feel of so many on my head.
I have done some research on the sew ins and seen photos and talked to people that have them and as long as you find a very small micro weft and tiny tracks, the hair does lie quite flat and undetectibly. It is also important to use GOOD hair that is the best possible match to your own and I think I have been able to do that. So I will give the wefts a try and if I dont like that, then I will be looking into the invisible strands next for certain. I am printing this thread. Thanks again.
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Which one did you call? That's the high end price for them. There's really no "low end" they're expensive but the cheapest one I've found starts at $1000. I know someone who's not licensed, she's a Cosmo student, that charges less, but $1000 to $1500 is what most shops charge.
Here's a list of the least expensive ones I've found and posted here for someone else. This is my summary:
You may also want to consider microillusions. They can take 3-7 days to install. The price is between $1000-$4000. They're similiar to pinch braids but aren't braided more than a 1/4 down, the extension hair is then wrapped around your hair and then two pieces of the extension hair is then tied off. Gina posts a similar type that uses a micro hook and ties off into a little knot.
Only your hair and the extension hair is used, no string, monofibre, glue, links etc. Usually last 8 months to a year. Also called undetectable strands invisible strands and undetectable hair.
They're so tiny you can barely see them, you have to be looking for them and you can't feel them at all. About five strands of hair attached to 5 strands of your own hair. That's why they're "invisible" to the eye and touch, takes so long and costs so much dang on money
I don't think this salon has traveling stylist,you can ask, but they say if you get a service worth $1500 or more, about the price of the microillusions, they'll give you a $200 travel allowance towards your airfare. They're here in Maryland. Don't forget to ask them about pics of microillusions in caucasian hair.
This salon's stylist will come to you. They do the microillusions, they call them undetectable strand by strand. They offer other solutions as well that are more affordable. There's a contact number posted to discuss costs and arrangements. It may be much cheaper if you come out here to Maryland though. Ask them if they have installed microillusions in Caucasian hair before and ask for pics. If they say that they have and can't send you pics, I'll go over and look at their portfolio, but you really need to see them yourself.
Hair is Jilena, Manhattan,N.Y click Invisible Strands on the left. They have pics of the microillusions and pics w/Caucasian hair, you can see if they have close ups. Theirs start at $1500 INCLUDING the hair always double check.
I looked into this method and Im sure its great but I to am leary of its claim of extensions lasting upwards of a year. That just does not seem possible. There was a lady on Black Hair Media forum who had it done and she seemed happy with it but complained of excessive shedding. It seems like such a tiny knot would be very difficult to maintain.
I had a phone consult about it and asked if it was a practical method for silky fine caucasian hair and the lady (who was very nice) said she had many white clients. I asked if she would send me a few close up photos on caucasian hair and she sent one and its dark colored hair and a little tiny thumbnail shot so who knows.
Also, yes, they will come to you and stay in your home for a fee because it can take upwards of a week to do a full head on caucasian hair. We are talking $6000. As much as I would like to try it, yikes, I have to draw the line somewhere on what I spend on this. Plus you better get the BEST possible quality and match bulk hair you can find on the market for this.
Maybe if I hit the lottery someday... sigh.
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Take a piece of weaving thread, make a tiny loop, tie it off in a knot. Begin a fusion bond as usual, dip in glue pot or make with the gun but add the thread with the loop extended above the top of the glue before you roll it between your fingers. Go through the bond and snip off the excess string.
Reuse the hair as usual. Dissolve with acetone, remove the excess from your bond and do the above to make a new one.
I was very curious about the microchet method and when I saw it on their website I thought it was the bestest I ever encountered! I asked here if anyone knew about it and the talk sorta stopped after deciding that if you can't re use that expensive hair anyway, why bother!
So, needless to say I'M GLAD you brought it up again.
I'd love to learn it...can you tell us a bit more? Or show some pics or video? I'm just wishing out loud here Maybe we can all put our heads together on how to make the loop/pre tip ourselves. I wonder if the glue adheres to the loop thread since it's not made of hair?
It looks amazing though...
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Are you saying that she taught you all to put glue on extensions that had glue on it already? Why not teach how to make bonds with loose hair. They're cheaper than nail and I tips anyway.
yes, she does seal it as well. I just don't see any method lasting twelve months, that's not realistic.
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She must have changed the course since I took it. She didn't seal the micros then. I too raised an eyebrow to the claim of 12 month extensions.
Another issue I had was w/the fusion technique taught. We used a gun on I-tip hair and rolled it in. NO NO NO...I had done several fusions b4 and knew the tips would peel back once the keratin broke down.
They would have to be narrow and short as well. Very, very short. The ones I made couldn't be seen or felt and if they're covered when you put them in unless you have breakage they would remained covered as your natural hair grows. My question was how can they say it lasts 8 months to a year with NO MAINTENANCE??? Wouldn't it have to be resealed? Plus that's your money if you're offering that service. My regular fusion was cheap only $400 but I had to get maintenance every one to two months at $40 a pop because of natural shedding weighing down some of the bonds.
The option A has to be cut out but it appears to be double looped you could add another to it if you cut the top loop. The option B is tied in a way that once the nail glue is dissolved all you have to do is pull and the microchet unties and comes out,no cutting.
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