QuoteReplyTopic: Weaves: When to get a Redo? Posted: August 24 2007 at 8:26pm
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Diva, is there a big difference in size between EP's handtieds and machine wefts?
Well when you are ordering custom hair from Extensions Plus they can be made any density you want.. so it depends on what you get.. I've seen some custom hand tied hair that was QUADRUPLE density (SUPER SUPER THICK!!!)
This may be a non issue though.. I do not know for certain if can you get outside hair (non EP hair) wefted into hand-tied wefts... I've never inquired.. All of the outside hair I ever had wefted at EP I had done in machine wefts..
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Except she got machine wefts for that price.. (They charge by the ounce) I don't know if they do custom hand-tied wefts.. You would have to call Extensions Plus and ask.. My guess is that if they do custom hand tied wefts, that it will cost a little more than the machine wefts..
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OK another question. I bet you know this one, MS. I remember reading somewhere on here where to send hair to be hand tied. Where was that and how much?
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So do I...I am in the same boat as you girl, really fine hair. My braids are pretty sturdy but I have had them re done twice by two different stylist in a month and I still look like I have a bald spot. I went with a single hand tied weft and my last stylist had a heart attack, I had to see her again this week because she cut it and all the hair on the right side of my head fell out..lol. Not funny but im tired of it so hopefully I get at least a month of peace out of this install. What did u guys mean by "rings" ? meaning micro ring strand by strand?
I'm not sure if hers are siliconed, you'll have to ask. Some people don't like the siliconed ones and prefer the regular ones. The trumpets will work too.
Oh yes, I have the correct needle and thread, just not ambidextrious. I have the curved needle just not used to sewing myself! I do need to get the rings though.
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Thank you for your help MS. I am going to definitely try that micro ring method, but until I can get some I just "temporarily" did the twist/band weft on the really loose weft I had and I am digging it; I can't believe I was able to do it on my own. I do have a few battle wounds on my scalp and fingers from that needle. Ouch! But, with that method, what do I do with the extra hair? One side of the weft is still braided while the other is twisted, just twist it back in the way they do the braid, I assume? Anyhow, it is kinda hanging out back there.
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Try a few rings in a small undetectable section of your hair for a week or so. If it's silicone-lined it should be fine. This is going to be the fastest, most affordable way for you to wear your wefts. It should only take a few minutes to tighten all of them. We need to tell sourgirl, she's going through extension hell right now.
Good idea. I have seen the EZ wefts. Same thing basically, huh? My only concern, are they gentle enough on the hair? I have pretty bleached out hair, and I am so afraid it would just break off the hair.
It may be that your hair is too fine and soft for just regular braids... It happens.. Not all hair types work well with braided weaves.. Finer hair textures and silkier hair types tend to slip sooner.. I have a girlfriend who is African American, but her hair is VERY fine.. She can't REALLY get more than 4 weeks out of a weave.. And at the 4th week she is REALLY pushing her luck..
Her braids loosen up by the 2nd week. For the next two weeks she is hanging on to the weave by a wing and a prayer... Given the number of stylists you've tried, I would say that it's not just a matter of them not knowing how to work with caucasian hair, but rather that they only know one method for creating tracks which clearly doesn't work well with your hair..
I am going to suggest you try looking for a stylist who does something similar to the Malyasian method or uses the rubberband method (like the ones MsHoney talked about earlier) Here's a link which is one of the better ones I've found which explains the Malysian method..
Thats not right Kristie. Whoever is installing is doing something wrong for your hair type. I have fine hair and these are staying on me with no problems at all so it can be done.
Is your hair baby fine or just normal fine?
I think on me, all that was used was string and little rubber bands wrapped around. I dont even think she braided. But also NO you can not wash a weave every day. That might be 50% of the problem right there. Get a good match to your own hair and then at the most, once a week with a mild shampoo. If it starts to feel oily up on your scalp, just clip back your long extension hair and brush forward all of the top hair and lean over in the sink and shampoo like that. DONT use conditioner up top or it will make it feel oily. Then just flip back the top hair and blow dry and style however you normally do, but also be sure to dry your tracks really well any time they get wet. That alone might help but I think you need a new install method.
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you gals may want to try this. Buy some silicone-lined links and sew them about every inch or two along the wefts. Pull a strand of your own hair above the weft through the link and clamp shut. When the wefts loosen, open the link, slide the weft up and reclamp. Once the links wear out replace them.
I don't pick at anything at all! Believe me, I know how much I am wasting (good thing my husband doesn't!). I have barely TOUCHED this new hair and am trying to do something else this time to prevent cutting it at all. I wear my hair really straight, but thats a good idea to just curl the ends. I really prefer it straight is the only thing. I know its a learning process. Yes, braids are very tight when I get them done...to the point I wonder how much damage it does when they are braiding my hair. I have never had them retightened, but I have been to about 7 or 8 braiders in the past few months. I feel like none are really that familiar with Caucasian hair. I have done so much research looking for them! I would love to either find a method I or my husband could do, even if every couple weeks, or I would even be willing to travel a little just to find an experienced braider....
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Given the number of stylists you've tried, I would say that it's not just a matter of them not knowing how to work with caucasian hair, but rather that they only know one method for creating tracks which clearly doesn't work well with your hair.. 