QuoteReplyTopic: negative reactions for having longhair Posted: August 21 2003 at 2:47pm
i once got a negative reaction for cutting it. most people were just shocked because i went from butt length hair to sholder length then cut it again to chin length. my friend was (well. still is) african american and she had really dry hair and it broke off all the time no matter what she did. at first she had to have some cut because it was so hard to deal with. and one day she was like "And whats wrong with you anyway!? My hair just gets shorter and shorter and wont grow and you go and chop a few feet of it off like its nothing! If I had hair like that id NEVER let anyone TOUCH it. You're insane." i was just like "Um. Im sorry?"
with long hair. i was so young when i still had really long hair nobody cared. most people would say "my mommie cut my hair and its really pretty you should cut yours like mine!" or something like that. now that im growing it, and its dyed black, and im the most hated person on the face of the earth... im sure SOMEONE will have something to say.
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I would easily believe that this so call husband left the house because his " friend" was actually a female and he is having an affair and used the hair story as an excuse. I'm appauled that excuse was used and noone thought of your feelings in the whole situation. Next time maybe press the delete button and pick new friends. How dare someone not think of your feelings. Not to bright on their part. Pretty shallow people.
Eventhought the reason was about your hair "if that was really the case" all precautions to protect your feelings should have been taken.
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Erinlynn and HippyChick, I feel your hurt. There will always be people who want to have power over others, and they will target you where they know it hurts the most. Your hair, your lover, your education, your dreams. If you confront them, they will just say stuff like "I´m just saying it for your own good, I love you!" Well, with friends or family like that, who needs enemies?
Keep them away from you and there will be room for nicer people to get to know you.
The more you complain, the longer God lets you live.
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My hair is long for a guy - about chin length. I don't want it any shorter, but my family dislikes it, and I think some of my friends who knew me from back when my hair was a traditional short haircut feel the same way. There is discrimination out there still and this is shameful.
Reggia, this is what happens in Jane Eyre, a story which would happen in about the first half of the 19th century and may be based on something the author, Charlotte Bronte, saw during her short stint in a boarding school run by a certain William Carus Wilson. Her heroine, Jane, is sent as a child to the Lowood Charity School by her un- -charitable aunt, for daring to oppose the rag treatment Jane gets from her and her children. This school is run by Mr. Brocklehurst, who claims to be a very religious person, but is apparently sadistic and makes the girls suffer by imposing a puritannical discipline on them, eg. underfeeding them. One day, he remarks that a girl has curly red hair and calls it vanity, although it is natural - duhhhhh! He promises to send a barber next day to get it cut off. If I were a barber, I'd certainly refuse such a despicable job unless Mr. B. had brainwashed me! And he not only does that but he decides that all the "top knots" of the other girls must be cut off, because they have a little braid or twist or something in their hai. Duhhh - why not just undo it! And. Guess what. Then, his wife and daughters come in and are not only well-dressed, but the mother even has - get this - a fringe of false curls in her hair!!!!! In the movie of 1996 or so "Jane Eyre", this scene is done much differently and totally seems to lose the point. You don't get that Mr. Brocklehurst is sadistically inclined, you just think he's puritannical (he orders Jane to give him shears to cut her friend's naturally curly hair. Jane hesitates and he says "I will not ask you twice". To which Jane gives him her hair to cut also! Sort of in your face, but doesn't acheive anything.)
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Ah Erinlynn, sorry you didn't have a chance to inform your co-worker before "the deed" was done. I understand your concern about telling him what you've learned. At the last job I had, a woman had just done the same. I told her what I knew. She was upset, but determined to regrow.
This friend of yours is a strange person... Rant all you want! I can understand your irritation!
* "your hair is so thin, I cant grow my hair long becasue its so thick" and "my hair is too thick, yours is thin, i cant have it long"
?? That makes no sense.
* I could grow mine that long [from 5" to 3] in a year since my hair grows so fast..."
Seriously doubtful. The fastest I've known anybody's hair to grow was another former co-worker whose hair grew 1" per month.
I dont think my coworker would cut it if he knew all that about Locks of Love. On monday if his hair is gone I dont know if i will want to tell him (might make him feel worse). but if he still has hi hair Ill tell him and then he wont feel selfish.
As for my friends comments and them working...well yes I cut it but it is still long so I didnt cut it short. i did it for myself, not from her comments. Now she can just be jealous that my hair is still long and looks fuller than before.
I dont know, this friend of mine is a strange person. She also says "James will never ask you to marry him. He will be a bachelor all his life" and "your hair is so thin, I cant grow my hair long becasue its so thick".
First off, my hair is not thin. Now that its been cut it looks thicker too. And to both her and her hubby my hair is still long.
Second, her hubby likes long hair. She says she wants to grow hers out but as soon as it reaches her shoulder blades she cuts it. She loves short styles on herself but I think she tries to convince herself that she wants long hair becasue its so nice on others and her guy likes it. but then uses the "my hair is too thick, yours is thin, i cant have it long" excuse to cut it.
HA! I know she likes long hair on others and is envious. But she doesnt really want it on herself.
As for James and I...she should mind her own beeswax. Thats a rude statement!!
Okay, this gal has a very offskewed view of what is appropriate and inappropriate to say. In fact, she just doesnt always realize when she says something that bothers others.
And!!! Oh forgive my ranting!! You all might be the only ones who understand.
She claims she can grow her hair as long as mine in a year!!! Now Im talking about going from 5 inches long to over 3 feet long. Yes, she DID claim she could do that! Thats about 3 inches a month of growth if not more.
AND a mutual friend of our with hair to her waist got hers cut to boy cut short...barely a few inches long. But my friend tells others that her hair was just as long as mine (um no) and then she cut it all off. Impressive story.
She usualy tells these stories when someon comments on my hair. "I could grow mine that long in a year since my hair grows so fast, but my hair is thick and so its to heavy to grow...our friend Ilia had hair just as long as hers and cut it all off"
Maybe shes trying to draw attention away from me.
Okay...ill stop ranting.
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The one i hate most is actualy from a friend and its not a negative remark about my hair. She says "Erin will never cut it, not even a little, she would cry if she did". Well I just recently did cut a significant amount off and I didnt cry. it grows back fast enough. My hair doesnt define who i am. Its a part of me but it isnt everything.
This "expression" from your so-called friend was purely a trick, wherein the proof to the contrary would be defined by her objective, which was to get you to cut your hair off. It worked.
The way I see it is, if you like your hair being long, then to hell with anybody who tells you you shouldn't wear it that way. Nobody gives men grief for having short hair. Why should anybody give women grief for having long hair?
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Personaly I like long hair on men. I find it Very attractive (well I dont like super long hair as much or really bad looking scraggly hair on men). My coworker has hair that reaches just under his shoulder blades. Its thick, a nice rich honey color and very healthy. He looks good. It looks professional too if he keeps it in a ponytail (and he works for the state govt). Id hate to see him cut it althoug he is pondering doing just that for locks of love.
Erinlynn,
Would your co-worker be as willing to cut his hair if he was aware that locsk of luv makes big money selling hair? Or if he was aware that they receive much more hair than they use in the wigs they make? Donations made without full awareness of such relevant facts are made in vain.
Your experiance sounds horrible!! I never encountered that much critisism but I also lived in a short hair family. My mom kept my hair shorter than shoulderlenght untull 8th grade when I was allowed to make my own decisions. She was never really mean about it, but she would always convince me somehow that a cut was needed.
My dad and sister each like shorter hair too. I like short hair...but its not for me. So no matter of convinceing will make me desire a short style. ironicaly my boyfriend generaly likes short hair too, but he loves how I look regardless of hair lenght.
As for encountering other negitivity. usualy its strangers or aquaintances who will make the "why dont you cut it" comments.
The one i hate most is actualy from a friend and its not a negative remark about my hair. She says "Erin will never cut it, not even a little, she would cry if she did". Well I just recently did cut a significant amount off and I didnt cry. it grows back fast enough. My hair doesnt define who i am. Its a part of me but it isnt everything.
Personaly I like long hair on men. I find it Very attractive (well I dont like super long hair as much or really bad looking scraggly hair on men). My coworker has hair that reaches just under his shoulder blades. Its thick, a nice rich honey color and very healthy. He looks good. It looks professional too if he keeps it in a ponytail (and he works for the state govt). Id hate to see him cut it althoug he is pondering doing just that for locks of love.
Hmm, I'm 43, and grew up in south Texas. When I was younger back in the late 60's early seventies I grew my hair out. I couldn't believe my parents let me but they were always the sort to let us kids make our own decisions for better or worse so we could learn from our own mistakes.
Anyway, back then there ws a LOT of grief for it, mainly from every adult around and law enforcement types. Small towns back then were notorious for long haired guys getting beaten by cops and such.
That went out by the end of the seventies though, even in small town Texas.
I personally couldn't care less what people think about it.
I've cut mine off for jobs a few times, when I had to and needed the job. I'm the boss now so I don't have to worry about it :)
Anything you do someone is not going to like, and someone else will think is great, so life is too short to go around worrying about it all and what people think.
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But the only bad comments I get about length are from my mother... For years she'd clip pics out of mags of cuts/styles that she thought would be suitable.......
Hi Reggia,
My father tried this "trick" once... at least he meant well... and thankfully he didn't push the issue. I think he must be at least reasonably happy that his son turned out to be "okay."
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My worst fear is forced haircuts, but I find them oddly intriguing.
Hi Hippychik, I share that fear somewhat, too, and always blamed it on the Jane Eyre wherein there is violent anger as they force Jane into a haircut as some sort of punishment. For years, I didn't want to read the book so as to avoid that particular scene. Growing up Catholic, I learned of a true story in which a girl (St Catherine, I think) also endured a very harshly given haircut as a punishment.
Until I reached adolescence, my hair was always kept at my shoulders. Admittedly, I wasn't too conscious about it except when a schoolmate commented on its unkemptness. {blush}
But the only bad comments I get about length are from my mother, she was mortified that I didn't cut it when pregnant back with my first child. Furthermore, she believes it makes me vulnerable to attack. And at the least, is simply "not fitting". For years she'd clip pics out of mags of cuts/styles that she thought would be suitable.......
Hi HippyChik! I feel your pain! When I was a kid, maybe about 9 or 10 years old, with pretty darkest brown hair to my shoulders, I had the lice treatment, which after my grandmother one day noticing "nits"(lice eggs) in my hair, my mother doused my hair with kerosene(supposedly to kill the eggs), cut it all off to a really dorky-looking short haircut! I was then plopped in the bathtub for what was an eternity to shampoo out the kerosene, the smell of which lingered for awhile on me. I had to go to school next day too, and be stared at. Basically long hair was not particularly approved of in our family, so people would cut theirs(and mine!) at the slightest excuse. These were home haircuts in a rural area, not anything remotely stylish either!
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So sorry to hear you've been forced to ensure such treatment, Hippychik. I can empathize. Feel free to share your thoughts here or, as Uzma suggests, through board mail ("bmail") with those you might wish to discuss some issues privately.
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Well, the minister wasn't as much help as I thought he'd be. He did tell my grandmother later that I was obsessed with my hair, although he didn't think cutting it was the answer. When I'd never been allowed to have hair, I did get a little obsessive and protective. That's only natural that I'd develop a extreme response in response to what my family did to me. I have a lot of issues now about hair. Instead of it being an accessory, it's my only beauty. My worst fear is forced haircuts, but I find them oddly intriguing. I go on those story sites, and am repulsed yet turned on. I'm glad I've found a place to just get all this out of my head.
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o_O. When it's pathological, there's only one pace for them, and it's the asylum. Head lice requires in no way or form that you have to cut your hair to get rid of them. I know this personally, so you did the right thing trying to find someone who wasn't whacked (surprised at it being a minister), well, anybody is better than nobody.
People (as in this family minus the poster) who say "I'll do this because I can" are not parents/family. They are pathological slavedrivers. Don't ask what I'd do to such people, when they can't fairly love, care, and guide a child.... I'd have a Stalinistic approach to such people :P
(and if you're unable to decipher, well, an Ingram in the kneecaps is a vivid enough image)
While never about my hair (oh yeah, I didn't have any, maybe that'd be something too), I felt the same kind of alienation from my family/relatives.
I hate all of the following and lots more : Fundamentalists, racists, sexists, fascists, ageists (people saying seniors = senile , kids = stupid , 18 = immature or a combo of them), and bigots for causes yet to receive their own designation.
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I'm just wondering if any females here have had anti long hair discrimination. All my life, I dealt with a grandmother who has a pathological hatred of hair. My hair was above the ear at all times when I was a child. My grandmother would have it forcibly cut and permed and I was severly punished one time for screaming in the "ugly shop" that they'd ruined me. I always wanted long, flowing princess hair. Even the males in the family hate hair. My grandfather told me that if I was his daughter he would cut my hair to my shoulders just because he could. How am I supposed to believe they love me if they say things like that? As late as when I was 17, my grandmother told me that because I got lice (the one time in my life) that "That hair's got to go." I jumped out of her car and into mine and went to my youth minister and called my parents. My hair was saved. This is painful to talk about, but I'm glad to finally talk about it.
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