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Thank you both! Somewhere on here I say what all that hair is and where it came from. There's numerous types and some of it has copper Jazzings streaked in.

Bra strap length is about 18" and one weft will probably be plenty. I'm assuming you'll be making your own strands with it? ebonyonline and superhairfactory is where I believe the good bohyme hair is. Good luck!
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commonpleasure...where the heck did you find bohyme for 60 bucks.....gotta know!
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http://www.superhairfactory.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2_41

of course, that's 12''. which, now i know, is short.

so i think i'll go to the local supply store and get 14'' or 18''... one weft. and order my shrinkies stat. i hope i won't need more then one order???
and hope my flatiron works, b/c i already spent a ton on that thing and i don't know about buying a new tool.

oooooo i'm so excited. i'm moving back east and no one will know they aren't real since i've been gone for 8 months. except the boy i adore. gotta figure out a way to tell him, cause he's the one who will be, um, close enough to figure it out! LOLOLOLOL

yay!
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double post sorrrry!!
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Concerning Shrink Links ( Mark Barrington Concepts) :

It does say on his website (under the Shrink Links sections) that the method does have a patent on the product. (what that # is-it doesn't say?)

That's what I thought he said when I took the class from him several years ago to become certified. ( I also think certification is over rated)

I happen to live in the same city where the company is located and so I have often stopped into his office to pick up my client's hair orders, and we often chat about how his business is going. Very nice group of people.

I don't think he aggresively markets his system because he wants to keep it 'exclusive'. He would probably never sell a system to an unlicensed person.

A big difference with their system, is that the hair is pretipped with a small plastic end that does not melt under the heat of the flat iron. So that means you can easily reuse the hair several times and don't have to keep rebonding it. It's really no hassle.

Also, they are big on sellling true 100% European Hair which they get from Extensions Plus, in LA. Real European hair is so much better than any kind of Indian hair (which includes Bohyme), but almost three times as expensive. I do have clients who have been using the same European hair for over 2 years with no tangles at all. I myself have also have worn European hair and it is great, if you can afford it. However for the most part, I think Indian Remi hair does just fine for most clients.

For the most part, the Dr. locks system seems good too. Their shrinkies are more firm than the shrink links and therefore take more heat to shrink them down, but I don't think that is a problem.

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Personally, I'm glad Doc Locks has this sort of stuff
available for the DIY'ers.

If it works, It works. :)

And I agree w/Amm's analogy regarding the Kleenex :D

Lol, that one gave me a good laugh
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Thanks for the info on Shrinks, MetalGirl.

Perhaps Doc's version is made from a slightly different material, and that's how they get around the patent issue (this would also explain why they feel different). I know there was a lawsuit, or a pending one, between Eurolocs and Hairlocs awhile back. But my guess is that there's some materials difference there, too, even though those methods, as well as rings and extendtubes, are all very similar. My guess is that that lawsit didn't go too far, since Hairlocs is still in business.

I guess we all think certification is overrated, although I think stylists are in a difficult position with this. If anything ever were to go wrong with a client, the first thing people (and hair companies) seem to say is, "Well, were they certified?"

That's interesting about pretipping and re-use. I imagine with the DIY stuff, you can just rebond it after removal. ...



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Just found this community, what a wonderful gathering of useful information.

If this question has been answered, I appoligize...In regards to the heat clamp for putting in shrinkies? Do you have to spend $100 on one or can you get buy with a hair straightener? The discount stores have a small hair straightener, its about an inch wide and has multiple heat settings for $15.00.

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Just for home use you could use that straightener xx
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I agree: Several people have said they've used the corner of a flatiron. It's probably a bit more cumbersome, but as long as you're careful, it should work.

Any opinions on temperature? How high does the heat clamp go?
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does anyone know how long shipping time is from dr locks? i'm trying to get a day put away for my friend to do this. maybe i'm dumb, but i couldn't find it on the site

thanks :)

oh shoot and one more thing...jeez, i feel like such a tool asking all this lol....machine weft vs hand tied????
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Depends on where your at. Im in Colorado and I got my supplies within 3 days.

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Could you use Kanekalon with shrinkies or would it melt with the temp you need to shrink the shrinky?

I have a wig made of Kanekalon that Ive been wearing for 3 months. I wash it 3 times a week, blow dry it and even use a low temp curling iron on it and the hair is still silky soft and wonderful.

Im wanting to go back to extensions because my hair has grown out to the point that wearing a wig is getting uncomfortable.

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A few people have said you can use Shrinkies with synth, so I don't think it would be a problem.

That's great news about the Kanekalon wig; I wouldn't have thought it was that durable. Have yo had any difficulties with the Kanekalon? Was it tricky figuring out how to style it properly, or was it pretty simple? What kind of texture do you have?

Sorry for all the questions, but I am (obviously) obsessed....
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Here is a picture of the wig that I got.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60188&item=3474018874#ebayphotohosting

It looks exactly like the picture. Its my third Kanekalon wig, Ive been wearing wigs for about 2 years trying to grow my hair out.

I love kanekalon, the colors are beautiful, it holds its style very well and the color dosnt fade.

As for styling, when I got it I took it out of the box, shook it out and put it on. I only have to comb it once a day, right before I put it on, otherwise its good to go.

I would love to use Kanekalon with shrinkies if its possible. Guess Ill just have to try it. Besides, Kanekalon is waaaaaaaaay cheaper than human hair.

Em

PS: thats the color and style Im trying to find in human or kanekalon.
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Now, I've seen Kanekalon in the beauty store and it is scary looking stuff. I would never even consider buying it. Before I got the funky colors from Kristin, I went and looked at the Kanekalon and I ran out the door. There must be different versions and grades of it?
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Yea, that's what I've been thinking :\
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ok...shrinkies purchased, checked out bohyme silky straight at a local shop today (ahhhh, that's how hair should feel lol)

here's where i'm getting nervous (other than the real vs synth debate). making my own stands? do you mean cutting them off the track and threading them thru? what's the best way to gage how much hair to thread thru the shrinkie?

eeep. i'm so excited about trying this, but so nervous that we're going to screw it up....and frankly, i can't afford to screw it up. if i could i'd have a professional do it .

again, thanks
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I think there probably are different grades. Plastikhaar's Kanekalon is the only one I've seen specifically recommended for loose.

That said, most of the beauty-supply-store Kanekalon I've seen is Yaki Kanekalon (meaning it's textured for "ethnic" hair). It can blend wonderfully with Black hair, but would look real odd with Caucasian hair. Was that maybe what you saw? Yaki textures are more widely available because black girls have been doing there own weaves for ages, and it's a relatively new phenomenon among white girls.

The only other thing I've noticed about beauty-supply-store Kanekalon is that it looks a bit shiny, but I guess we'll have a better idea of that when we see the Dome, Plastikhaar, and (hopefully) ProStyles stuff.
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Nope, as for me - I saw the silky straight kanekalon,
it was in alot of different colours ..it wasnt the yaki.
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