Hello every one, thanks for the welcome!! I've been watching this site with interest ever since I first came into contact with Amanda via ebay, and way before I had my extensions. Reading what was posted here helped me make up my mind about shrinkies and because Amanda knew which way was up I did an 8 hour round trip to see her instead of bite the bullet and have some crap done in London, thank God!! To be honest I feel slightly star struck talking to you guys!!
Right now this is doing my fricking head in. I've just had a client e-mail me and she's had her hair in 1 1/2 weeks. She says she's had 20 come out. She said that she had washed her hair with fairy liquid before she came to me. She had really bad bleached hair. I'm feeling incompetent again. I'm thinking that shrinkies don't suit everybody. She said that she had the glued in extensions and none came out!!! Help, is it me or what ?
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Amanda, calm down, chick! It is not you. You are not incompetent. Remember: you are a hair ARTISTE!!
You are right: shrinkies don't suit everybody. They just don't. They are a great method for lots of people, but not all people - and I'm one of them. And I WANTED to love them, but for some reason they just don't work well for me either. So the client with the overprocessed bleached hair needs to chill. There's a more appropriate method for her, and maybe with the weak hair, she should do clips for a while and stay off the bleach.
Oh, Amanda--it's not you at all. You've had great success with this
method several times, and your installations are beautiful. But it's
true: No one method is for everyone. I have extremely overprocessed
hair, and for me, braiding works best, and glues are a nightmare; for
others, braids don't work, and they're better off with glues. Weaves,
tubes, and shrinks stay in some hair, and not in others. My boyfriend's
shrinkies didn't stay in long, but he uses a lot of pomades and gunk.
I'm sure if the client has an oily scalp, it affects things, as well as
their daily styling regimen and the porosity and "smoothness" of their
hair. Hell, it could have to do with the PH level of the water where
they live. And sometimes, it's not anything a client is doing or your
application; it's just a mystery--it works for some and not for others.
As far as incompetance, that's ridiculous--you and AMM have had more
success with this system than anyone, so obviously you're doing
something right.
I think that as a stylist, all you can really do is try to offer more
methods. If I understand it, you're already offering extendtubes too,
correct? So you may want to add a braiding method to that. I'm not a
fan of glues, but maybe you could add that to the mix as well. At that
point--if you're offering several methods, and nothing works for
someone--well, what can anyone do really?
Please don't get discouraged or beat yourself up about this. You've
done so much good work, and your clients have been raving about you.
It's only natural that it's not going to work for someone eventually,
and that's nobody's fault: It's just the reality of the product
combined with that client's specific hair.
Thanks guys, I e-mailed her and asked her if they came out when she was washing them, thinking that could be it, her reply was "I've had them before, I know how to treat them, they just seem to be slipping out". I can't understand how they can just slip out, they were rock hard when they went in. When I get back from my wedding I think I'm going to start practising the pinch braiding as well as the shrinkies and extentubes and I'm also going to buy a gun from Kristen and offer the glue method as a last resort. The only thing is people where I live don't like you to know they are wearing extensions so with the pinch braiding, can you cover up the braids if you don't work high up the head and can you see them when you pull your hair up in a pony x Do you think I should offer the glue in wefts as well. I've also started offering the micro ring wefts as well but people are concerned with putting their hair up. Again thanks guys, I'm so glad I've got this board, nobody else seems to understand. We strive for the perfect extension method. I think I'm more upset for her than she is LOL xx
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Amanda, maybe she's getting her conditioner, and or smoothing sprays too close to the shrinkie bonds? Just a thought. Or maybe her natural hair and scalp is just too oily for this method. Don't get down on yourself though... You know you do a good job!!
It's totally mystifying. But when you think about it, there are lots of
us here, and between us, we have every different preferred method
imaginable.
As far as pinchbraids, they're somewhat more visible than the shrinks
and tubes, but they have the advantage of supereasy removal, no fancy
equipment or supplies, no pretipping, and minimal to no damage. They've
certainly been the easiest method on the hair that I've tried, and that
includes shrinkies and extendtubes. But it's a trade-off, which is why
it wouldn't be best for everyone either. Mine never slip at all, but
that's just my experience wtih my stylist: Everyone's is different. I
remember Rose saying that hers slipped right out. Mine aren't
undetectable when I put my hair up, but no method has been for
me--I think that's just a reality of having very thin, very blonde hair
and adding a lot of hair to that. I have seen pinchbraid jobs that look
very undetectable, though.
Cheer up, Amanda--and remember, this isn't your fault. We all know that you try incredibly hard to make your clients happy.
Thanks a lot chicks, I've changed my advert to basically say all what you guys have said, I've said that not every method is suitable to every person but that hair extensions isn't just about making money to me its about happy clients and that if they save their hair and find that the method I've installed isn't suitable to them that I will refit them with a different method free of charge until we find the method that they are suitable to.
Then I'm covered aren't I and people will feel that they can come back to me if things aren't working out, well hopefully anyway.
Just one question about the pinch braids. Can you use human hair with them xxxx
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Is Kristen's pinch braid the one I should follow if I'm using bohyme xxx Thanks a lot guys, I can see I've got lots of practising to do. Are the pinch braids less detectable if I do lots of small ones or is it better if I do 100 bigger ones like Kristen says xx
I didn't think Kristin did pinchbraiding, actually, but let me check
her site.....checking....oh, that's Rae's tutorial from Hairalchemy.
Yeah, the technique is the same no matter what hair you use. And I
think what Rae was saying is that you'd want to do at least 100
pinchbraids for a head and probably more. That said, they're not
extendtubes or shrinkies, so I think it'd be hard to do more than 150
or 175 on a head. How thick or thin you make em would really depend on
the look you want. I think the visibility will be more determined by
how far they are from the part and hairlines. Most of the reason
they're more visible than shrinks or links, imo, is because they're
longer, not thicker, than those methods. But yeah, basically the
pattern you use for an install would be the same as it would for other
methods. :)
Mmm I'm intrigued. I've just been practising on my manniquin with a strand of pre-tipped hair. I'm thinking that if the hair wasn't pre-tipped and it was bulk that I would have got it everywhere, is there a nack to this or is it just practice xxx
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Amanda, I just want to add one thing about your advert. You don't have to promise to retrofit a client's head until you find the right system for them...that seems extremely generous and I'm just afraid someone, or someones, will take advantage of that to get their hair done free. In fact, I'll bet money that eventually you'll get someone like that. Just offer to help the client find the right system, and when you meet with the client, you can sort of go over the various methods, etc and get a feel if the person is a possible rip-off artist or not, know what i mean?
You do great work, have plenty of great pictures to show, happy clients to refer to - that's all you need.
Well that crossed my mind but obviously there will be a time limit on it, I'm not going to do a full head extensions of some other method if they've had their hair in over 3 weeks or something and not told me if any have fallen out or anything and then just ring me up one day and expect me to change their method, I suppose I'm going to have to be careful but I really don't know what else to do. I feel like giving it up as a bad job every time somebody's hair doesn't go right. I suppose that's me all over though, I'm a bit soft in the head LOL xx
It's just patience; learning how to work with bulk hair is IMO very
useful for a stylist, as you can't always get the hair you need in
weft/pre-tip. It's not so hard, it's just about going slowly, pinching
off how much hair you need with one hand and separating it out with the
other hand, and always keeping the loop (for doubled-over hair, like
synth) or tips of the hair (for most human) aligned and in the same
place.
And yeah, about 100 pinchbraids. The smaller and more plentiful they
are, the less noticeable. You can do them really any size- the smallest
I've seen were some done by Boogiemama on my friend Carmen. They were
itty bitty streaks of synth, and the braid was no more than an eighth
of an inch wide. If you had the patience to do a whole head of those,
ain't nobody could see them. :)
The 100 number is just an estimate, btw- I've never actually remembered
to count how many braids I've done. It's about 100, I think, but I'll
try to get a more accurate number next time.
Pinchbraids can be any size- the less hair you put into each braid, the smaller the braid. Lots of small braids are a lot less noticeable than a smaller number of big ones.
Thanks a lot zap. Do you do your sectioning exactly the same as with the other methods x
Jenny, Amm, shrinkie gals, help again! I did my friend's hair with shrinkies on Saturday and she's had 7 come out already, she text me this morning. She says that the shrinkies are still in her hair but the tip has come out. I'm thinking that the shrinkie isn't sticking/adhering to the tip. My friend has oily hair but she washed 3 times in dish soap. Its obviously not the fact that her hair is oily otherwise surely the shrinkie wouldn't still be in her hair, I'm baffled now. I thought maybe its cos I've changed nail glue recently but I've just phoned up my supplier and checked the ingredients of my previous nail glue and its the exact same as the present one I'm using . I so want to perfect this but things seem to be getting worse.
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. I so want to perfect this but things seem to be getting worse.