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    Posted: March 24 2005 at 8:41am

Got my extensions put in yesterday!  Not sure how I'm feeling, really.  I have 27/613 WaWa, shrinkies.  I think the synthetic hair looks really shiney compared to my natural.  I hope after a couple of shampoos this will go away!  I also have a huge line of demarcation, my hair and the extensions, I blame the shiney synth. for this.

I'm almost at a point to say, the docs shrinkies blow.  Talk about inconsistancies!!  Once ya think you got it down, you run into a 'few' off shrinkies that give you a hard time.  I think regardless if the tip is flat or not, once you clamp shut the heat clamp and you force the bond flat, it's easier to just sqeeze the bond flat rather than rolling.  I have a couple on my sides that are flat that I'm going to test out.  I didn't find this out till I was about done with my head, otherwise I'd probably have a bunch flat.  Plus, shrinkies are pretty bulky are they not?  My natural hair is really thin and these bonds are  almost sticking out.  Maybe this method of maddness just isn't for me.  Sleeping last night was a huge pain in the ass too!  My head is pretty tender. 

Welp, I'm going to shampoo this head and post pictures when I'm done! So stay tuned, I'm going to need some help on this line of demarcation! : (

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Tenderness is normal right after install in my experience.

I haven't gotten mine yet but everyone keeps saying that Docs shrinkies are incosistent.  I just don't see how they can be manufactured inconsistently.  I'm not saying your wrong it just doesn't make much sense to me.

I'm installing as soon as my heat wand arrives and will report.

Where are you pictures!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mtolady Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 10:41am
inconsistency in the bonding could stem from how the glue is inserted into the tubing...i would assume it's done prior to cutting....

they may have the tubing machine rigged so that even the little end pieces are used...and maybe they don't get as much glue.

we're not talking about an industry that's life and death (although good hair is!), so the process may not be regulated as much as it should be.
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I think that the inconsistancies of the shrinkies may stem from the fact that the product is not manufactured for this kind of usage.  I don't know this for sure, but I am guessing that these are just the same type of tubing that you find at hardware stores, and not a speciality product that's been formulated and tested as a hair extension application attachment.

Oh how good it feels to be right....I told you guys a long time ago that shrinkies really suck!



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote amm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 11:56am
metalgirl, I would absolutely have to agree with you on the statement
that shrinkies are not manufactured for hair application. I ultimately
think this is either a tubing meant for electrical supplies or medical
procedures.

Either way, this is definitely a thin wall construction that's adhesive
lined.

And the claim that it's lined with a keratin coating inside? Ummmm,
no so sure about that either. I've tried the hardware store brands
that are lined and the inside melts the exact same way.

I myself like the shrinkies but I have never thought these were
specifically made for hair use.   
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The process for these things is typically mil-spec

that is i'm pretty damn sure this is the same stuff as one of the several hundred types of heat shrink tubing that are used by the military and they have very strict codes that are followed for the manufacturing.

Lots of non military people buy the mil-spec items and use them for similar purposes but the producers usually just make it mil spec so they can sell to anyone...

I hope that makes some sense
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mochachip Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 12:28pm
Sorry I started that post before lunch and finished it just now.

but amm do you know what the 'ingriedients for keratin glue are?  I keep thinking that they probably aren't that far off from the polyamide tubing glue

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Well, I am a fan of Doc's shrinkies- but they do require a special touch. I have had better results with haircandie's shrinkies, but I honestly think they are the same product- jut the haircandies shrinks are longer and I think the extra length of the shrink gives the product more stability as it shrinks, leading to a more consistent  and tighter final product.

 

I noticed this seemed to be the case when I got a few haircandies shrinks that were not as long as the others- these shorter shrinks behaved more like the Doc's shrinks- where as the longer one just worked better.

I would like to see Doc's offer longer version of the product- I suspect that shorter shrinkies must figure into the profit margin differently than the longer shrinks- but I'd be willing to pay morefor the longer ones based on my experience.

I havge no idea if the hardwar shrink tube is the same in terms of manufacturing or not- but it has worked ok for me as long as the hair is pretipped w/ keratin glue. If the pretips are LG it doesn't hold .....

just rambling hope it makes sense.

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sorry for the typos - eating lunch fast and typing
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my bf noticed that if he puts the tip in higherin the (doc) shrinkies they hold better. ie how in her pics they seem to stick out a bit. then when it shrinks it is NOT sticking out. bc if he doesn't have it stick out, then it will come out when it shrinks

does that make sense? we are still getting the technique down.

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Hey Bridget,

If the WaWa's anything like the PH, that shine'll be gone (or seriously toned down in just a few washes). I was pretty freaked out about the shine too, but it wasn't a problem for long.

Can't wait to see your pics!

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I chopped about 5 inches off (and no I did not use a razor, which I prob. should have now that I think about it), it was waist lenght, but that was about impossible (I don't know what the hell I was thinking).  It is super piecey (sp), the ends of the extensions look like paint brush tips... it does not blend, imo.  I'm posting these pictures for help!  I'm already thinking about spending my Sunday (Easter!) taking these out and getting HH w/the tubes.  I've lost 5 so far, this could be from my faultly install though...

I tried hot rollers, it didn't blend it any better so I flat ironed it again.  I shampooed it earlier, I think I may have used too much fab. softener because my ends are not blending what so ever and they feel heavy.  I'll shampoo again tomorrow and roll with rollers and let it dry this way and see... 

Your suggestions and comments are welcome!  I am afraid to even leave my house with this head! 

Metalgirl: do the MB shrinklinks shrink to perfection every time?  Have you compared them to the Docs at all?  I would love to try these shrinks out too, but I don't live next door to you guys, and it would be next to impossible for me to be able to fly to CA at this time for the class. 

Saucy:  I agree about the shrinkie bit.  If the docs did come longer they'd work better, imo. 

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Do you have anymore hair?  I'm a big fan of fixing things like tihs with more hair.  How high up your head did you go?  How many tips is it?
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How high up did you go?

Can you make some quickie clipins? Maybe that will fill in between your natural and the pieciness on the ends?! That could hold you over so you don't crash your weekend, and while you get supplies!

Do you have thinning shears? I've used those in a pinch. Just knock into those ends to break them up and get rid of your lines.

 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MERGUTHRIE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2005 at 10:44pm

you should try a cut comb/ razor or cutting vertically... maybe rae can explain it. what i do it i take a 'strand' and i start cutting slowly and softly from about an inch from the bottom and kind of razor cut to the bottom so it's kind of like an incline, does that make sense?

then each strand will hopefully blend with ea other instead of being so seperate. also i agree is there anyway you can get more hair in there?

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Well, the colors and the length look beautiful, but I see what you're saying here.

It looks like primarily a problem of amount to me--you don't have enough hair in, and it wouldn't really matter if it were human or synth, it'd be piecey and sparse on the bottom unless you added more hair. From the looks of it, I think you'd need about double of what you have, frankly. Then you could add a layer between the end of your real hair and the end of the extension hair and razor the ends a bit. Did you leave spaces between the extensions or between the rows? If so, you probably shouldn't. Doing a lot more connections but making them slightly smaller might help too.

Pieceiness is generally a problem with all strand-by-strand methods (as opposed to wefts), but I can't see, from the photos at least, any difference between the shine of your own hair and the synth.

Again, you need more hair, imo, as well as some layering, and you may need to go a bit further up on your head, too.

If it makes you feel any better, I have this problem fairly frequently myself. Having thin, straight hair doesn't help--wavy textures are a lot more forgiving.

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ps, i agree witrh jenny, and btw

 

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I 'reckon' I'll have to put some more tips in huh.  I was thinking about that too, but the top of my hair is soo thin, I don't know if it would cover them.  I like the clip in idea Gina, I'm gonna make that first thing in the morning, w/the hot glue gun, you crafty girl you! 

My ends will prob. still look like little paint brushes though!  I almost need to fry them out (how bad does that sound!). 

I think I have about 120-140 tips in. 

Merth, I think I know what you're talking about, the comb/razor combo.  I have to pick up some more blades, I think I'll try the thinning shear tip from Gina in the morn. 

Hopefully I'll be posting more pics tomorrow w/ better looking hair!

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I didnt' leave any spaces out inbetween my rows, and yep it still looks this bad!  I'll have to get a close up pic. of my bonds tomorrow for you.  I'm afraid to just let anyone cut it too, I know that cutting synthetic extensions is a bit different then cutting human. 
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When you use the thinning shears cut almost directly up into the hair or at least at a sharp angle.  You just end up with new stragne lines of demarcation if you go straight across ( I learned this the hard way my install)

So far your looking pretty good so just keep fiddling and you'll be all set.
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