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    Posted: May 05 2005 at 8:38pm

Who out there has has Wawa and Plastikhaar in their hands (and head?)

I am wondering if I should try out Wawa on my next install....

I dont' know why the curiousisty, I should prolly just stick with what I know, but I'd like to hear if anyone has anything to say either way...

Thx in advance!

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I'm attaching wawa to my head right now.  And I've had PH before.  I also used a few strands of wawa on my previous install. 

I had curled that.  This I'm leaving straight.  I think the ends frizzed up worse on the wawa but I also think that could be a function of styling abuse...
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I have to say I really don't like my WA Wa very much. It gets so frizzy in just a few days.  I have to steam it every 3 days to keep it decent looking.

I installed a full head of wa wa on my friend, and it also gets frizzy looking quickly.

I should be receiving my custom made PH wefts any day now, Sara shipped them out priority  mail on May 1st.  I can't wait!

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I have a bunch of wawa 27/613 22 inch. I think it's sooo pretty, and soft....if you want a sample, I can send ya some. I'm looking to sell it actually, lol. I'm hooked on PH for the length as I braid my extensions in, and double it over.

OH! I have never tried PH straight, just the 50 and 28. The wawa I have is straight and compared to 50 or 28 PH, I feel that it is much silkier.

I also have auburn wawa wave on a weft. I think it feels courser than the PH.

Confused yet? heheh.



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Isn't PH monofiber, meaning it can't be flat ironed or curled with a curling iron?  And WaWa is thermofiber so you can do both to it? 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MERGUTHRIE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:18pm

bird, you are correct.

i don't style my hair, i just brush and go, so the ability to use hot tools isn't a big plus to me...

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Shucks!    Anyone know where to get 40" thermofiber?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MERGUTHRIE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2005 at 11:23pm
you mean thermofiber?
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LOL, you caught me before I could edit!  Yes, I mean thermo!
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Originally posted by BirdOfEden BirdOfEden wrote:

Isn't PH monofiber, meaning it can't be flat ironed or curled with a curling iron?  And WaWa is thermofiber so you can do both to it? 


Yeah, that's the idea. Although some therm wearers have reported that it responds better to hot rollers anyway, which also work well with monofiber. You can curl monofiber with an iron, if you're careful (doing a strand test beforehand and keeping the heat low, etc.), but I wouldn't recommend doing it on a regular basis because I do think you'd fry the hair.

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I had good luck with WaWa straight. I don't like the bodywave whatsoever.

WaWa straight lasted me a good two months installed. My routine with it was washing about 3 times a week with a 50/50 water & fabric softener dunk and rinse in the shower. I always allowed it to air dry and loosely braided it for sleep. Velvet hot rollers worked real well and so did a curling iron.If the hair had a good curl to it, it even kept a lot of it after many washings. It never went stick straight until I used a flat iron with it.

I liked WaWa. I plan to always have some in my hair bank.
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Re WaWa. First of all. NO BODYWAVE. It SUCKS, it frizzes, it's horrible.

As for the straight: I discovered the secret to curling it with an iron.

I know that some of us (Sherrie, Amm) have been able to get those gorgeous curls out of  Straight WaWa (HSF too). Others of us have not.

Here is the secret:

IT CURLS ACCORDING TO HOW IT COOLS, not how it heats. I'll post pics later. I got some GORGEOUS, big, un-curly WAVES out of ALL of my straight thermofibers (including amm's AD).

Heat it up (i.e. roll it on an iron). If you're like most of us when you "Unroll" it, it will just sit there having done nothing.

When it's still warm, wrap it around WHATEVER SHAPE you want it to be in. No kidding - your finger, a large roller, your hand, a pencil. Hold it till it cools. Let go. Voila. It is amazing.

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Exactly. Curling WaWa is all about how it cools. But when you do it right, it curls beautifully and lasts a long time.

The only long thermofiber we've found so far is through American Dream. It's available in 18", 36", and 60" lengths and it's on wefts. And the early reports are that it is ROCKIN' hair.
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Meguthrie, My PH (4 packs) just arrived. I have 4 different brown colors but they actually look kinda reddish. Do you want me to send you some so you can see if you like it? E.
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Hey guys. I have gotten thermofiber from the shop down the street. Its great hair really, but Its HIGH maintance. I will look up the web site for it later. Ok this stuff is so silky smooth. I love it. BUT the problem is it takes FOREVER to curl. I put the heat on for  a min and let it cool in my hands and sometimes it works then others it didnt. But I had to sit there with each strand for a min each. i believe that it is only good for weaves that you are gonna leave the crown/bangs area. This way you only have to style the hair once and it will keep its shape and all of your hair except the crown and bangs is in a braid and you can style the crown and bangs with no problems! I did my moms hair with it and it was wonderful but she had a problem with it feeling a little fake, But yet again, she had DRY hair. I loved how it looked! so natural! AND she said that it heald the curl perfectly after she washed it. It STILL has the curl after taking it out, washing it again, and shoving it in a bag... Kinda scares me actually lol. You guys know if there are any brands that curl faster?
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I can tell you that my experience with the ebonyline thermal was that at first it was harder to curl (curling iron). It took longer to curl than my human hair extensions that I had the thermal mixed in with. But after about a week or so, it got easier to curl. I had it in for 2 months and by the time that I took it out it was curling pretty much exactly the same as my human hair extensions. The key was letting it cool without pulling the curl.
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elvira, i currently use ph, i love it!!!

candilocks, i believe you have to wet the thermofiber b4 curling...

everyone - THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL OF THE CONTRIBUTION!!! This is a hard decision



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Oh....thanks Mer for mentioning wetting the thermal fiber, I had almost forgotten that! When I first installed it, thats the only way it would curl. I would run my fingers under the faucet then just run my wet fingers down the strand of thermal before curling it. But after a week or so with it in my hair it didnt require being wet to curl.
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wow I didnt know that! *is in awe!* just awsomeness.

*shocked!* it worked!!!!!
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Update on bodywave WaWa install I did...

Remember this photo?

I saw the hair today and I swear it looks like a loofah sponge hanging around her waist. The point where the extension is attached and half the length of the hair is perfect. It's the ends and about 4 inches up that are horrendous.

Stay away from bodywave WaWa. Yeeech.
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