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    Posted: June 21 2005 at 7:28pm
Sorry if it has been talked about before. I looked and didnt see it so....but has anyone tried Beeswax to do pre-tips with? That is what Hairlocs SAYS they use on their pre-tips. You can buy it in big solid blocks that you would melt down. I am wondering if it would transfer to the hair under shrinkies. Anyone?
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thats what i heard they use too, it doesnt melt down, i have applied hairlocs with shrinkies and they didnt budge at all , in fact when i took out the shrink the hair and bond was great

 

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Im thinking it would melt all over the hair with the heat of the wand. And I really cant see it being very durable at all, would probably shed like crazy!
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maybe hairlocs has some beeswax in their pretipping formula, but I cant see it being a 100% beeswax tip. But I could be wrong, it just doesnt seem like it would work to me???
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Tangles- did you use a topcoat over them first? I was thinking that too Sherrie- that's why I put the top coat of Aleen's on first--in case the "supposed " beeswax would melt. But now I see I should have put nail glue over even THAT or no Aleen's at all! If in fact, Hairlocs DOES use just beeswaxand Tangles...you said there were no problems-- we may be on to something here! ...However, I wouldnt expect Hairlocs to expose the WHOLE truth about what they use, ya know?? (like maybe beeswax MIXED with something else, perhaps?)
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Sherrie--you posted before mine....we were thinking the same thing!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote amm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 7:47pm
Amazing.

You guys are talking about beeswax to pretip while I was DOING IT!

I have bricks of the stuff here in my soapmaking supplies.

I melted the wax on the stove into a liquid and tipped both a strand
of human and PH.

Works like a charm. It is incredibly easy and sets up in under a
minute. All the strands look coated and the tip looks like a machine
did it.

For microring apps, this is a dream come true, imo.

For hot applications like shrinkies -- test it OFF the head first. I don't
have time to test it to any extent right now to say one way or the
other what the removal is like but if you put a topcoat of nail glue
over the top anyway, it will be a non-issue.

Beeswax is available almost everywhere. You can get them in bricks
but they are hard to deal with as they're very difficult to cut. There
are also beeswax chips you can get which will probably be more
ideal.

Go down to the craft store and pick up a little smidge of beeswax and
try it. It is so unbelievably easy. I can kick myself for not thinking of
this with so much of it here in the house.

Yeah beeswax!

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 That is so funny,Amm!!! You must be sending me psychic"vibes"!! Yeah...I am kicking myself too!! My mom does mostly microring/hairlocs applications on clients and after Hairlocs said they used beeswax to pre-tip , she bought blocks of the stuff and uses it to RE-tip the clients strands after many months of wear instead of sending it out to Hairlocs and WAITING so long to get it back. It works GREAT with the locs but I was worried about applying heat to it. My mom wanted to use the beeswax to tip some hair to apply my shrinkies and I blew the idea off!OOOPS....guess I should have given it a second thought!
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OK...heres my fear of the wax....have you ever used Torain fusion? Or any other wax based fusion? It is a nightmare to remove, and the bonds break down very quickly. Maybe tipped with nailglue or used with shrinkies wouldnt be so bad. But getting the wax residue out of hair really scares me!
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I wouldn't be surprised if hairlocs used beeswax for their tips--mine were *very* waxy. They also shed like crazy, though; they just weren't durable.

I wonder if there would be any advantage to using beeswax over glue to pretip: The glue would provide the hold, the wax would "protect" the hair from the glue....

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Oh,I would definately use something OVER the beeswax tip first...just not tacky glue like I did last time!...I apparently read through the posts too fast last time and remember seeing some good reviews on it. I sent my brother to the store for Liquid Gold...he called and said it didnt see it...so I told himto grab the Aleen's instead...I now know they are meant to be used for 2 different purposes! Jenny-- are you still in your pinchbraids? I am trying to decide if I want to make an appt. with Heather or give the shrinkies another go.  Am also thinking about trying synth hair for the first time! I am not one to spend lots of time on styling!!With my HH there is no way around it!!
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when i applied the hairlocs hair with amms shrinkies i did NOT put anything on the tips at all. They stayed in my client for over 5 weeks then they started to slip out, she has always had a slippage problem and this method has stayed in the best. she loves them. She is due to come in this week for maintance and to reapply the ones that came out. she said she hasnt felt any residue of anything left in her hair after some slipped out. When i do her maintance, i will report further.

 

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Speaking of tipping.

I just read about a womans dog who swallowed some Gorilla Glue and had to have surgery, apparently it expands in the stomach.

Ouch! The dog came through surgery ok, it took 3.5 hours.
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Tangles--PLEASE PLEASE let me know how it goes overall with her... When you say "maintenance"are you taking them all out then putting them all back in the same day? Let me know how removal goes because if there isnt a mess then my problem is solved! I will order new hairlocs hair and apply them with no top coat! ( still wondering if a layer of nail glue may extend the wear though)  Have you noticed the hairlocs tips in lighter colors are more "bendy"than the dark colors? It's weird...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote metalgirl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2005 at 11:26pm

I think the Euroloc hair was also tipped with a wax like substance, and I did try use those strands with the MB shrink links and did not have good luck with it.   I found that the heat melted the wax tips and the hair either shed or slipped out. 

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Originally posted by RoseRose RoseRose wrote:

Speaking of tipping.

I just read about a womans dog who swallowed some Gorilla Glue and had to have surgery, apparently it expands in the stomach.

Ouch! The dog came through surgery ok, it took 3.5 hours.



I've seen photos of the hardened chunks they've pulled out. Really gross.

I'm tellin' ya, it's a dog eat glue world out there.
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yes i will tell you for sure- maintance i mean yes i will take them all out, deep condition, trim and then blow dry then reapply her hair back in. I will take good mental notes to tell all.

i did notice when the shrink and strand came out of her head, when i applied heat to remove the shrink off the strand, the hair was intact and so was the bond!

that i know is a good thing!

msft~ where are u located? i did notice the tips on the blonde hair are somtimes thicker.



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Tangles--I am in NC. Have you taken shrinkies out before or is this your first gal? Cant wait to hear what happens...it will be the deciding factor between trying them again or going for pinch braids!
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this will be my first time{{{virgin}}}}}

she comes in on friday- i will report right after that!

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amm, are you doing a coat of LG or nail glue on top of the beeswax?  I just got LG in.  And once I finally fricken finishg this install (tonight I hope) I need to start pretipping for the next one. 
will beeswax melt ina hot pot?  you can get those at craft stores right?
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