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    Posted: August 10 2005 at 11:22pm

I just went & had a consultation to get hair extensions (great lengths) I'm getting 18 inches of hair & the girl told me it will be 2,000 dollars.. which is okay because thats how much i expected... I want the best! 

But I was just wondering on how much I should tip... she said it could take anywhere from 3 to 6 hours... how much do you tip for something that cost 2,000 dollars???   & has anyone used  great lengths?? what did you think of them??  Is there anything better?

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Frist do a search on the board  on the method your having done and see if its worth that price frist. If you still want to have it done any where between 15 and 20 percent is standard.

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Why don't you just buy the hair yourself and do it x
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Thanks Marie.. I'm pretty sure that, thats usually what it runs... I've looked at so many different salons.. even out of my state and its anywhere from 1500 to 2000...  but, even though I could have gotten it cheaper I decided it would be easier just to go to the more expensive one... so I dont have to travel.

Amanda-- yeah that would be alot cheaper... but, I'm not good with stuff like that & my hair is kinda damaged from bleaching... flat ironing etc.... SO im scared to do it myself... Plus I've heard Great Lengths is the best & my hair girl told me that it causes the least damage... I dont know if thats true... but I hope it is! ;)

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I stumbled on this board by accident when I was searching out hair extensions. I was headed for great lengths myself as there are salons in my area who do them. But after spending days reading every single post here, I promptly changed my mind.

I just did my first shrinkie install and saved tons of money. I'm not trying to talk you out of it (though it sure sounds that way) just be aware of the possibilities. You absolutely can do this yourself.

My mom helped me finish my hair extensions and kept saying "this is fun". She's going to be my hair extensionist from now on and all she wants is to be taken to lunch afterward.

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Julz...please do a search on this board. GL is a fusion method. And can be very damaging for someone with damaged or brittle hair. Unfortunately EVERY method claims to be the best and least damaging. There are gentler methods, for already damaged hair...seriously....search through the posts. Did your hair girl give you any other options? Does she do any other methods? If you dont think you could do your own, at least seek out a professional that does several methods. Not one method is good for everyone, and an extensionist who is only trained in one method of course is going to tell you that method is the best.

Honestly there are a few methods that a DIYer can accomplish easily. Either alone or with the help of a another person, and can save yourself BIG BUCKS!

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Sherrie, Thanks for the info.   this salon is the top salon in my city.. its where I started getting my hair done after it got so damaged from a previous hairdresser..   She is from L.A & she told me she used to do other methods but has come to realize that great lengths is the best & thats the only one she does.  She also told me that with everyones hair she has done it hasnt damaged it... but, Im guessing their hair wasnt as bad as mine.   I'm kinda scared because I hear so many diff things...  I just dont want my hair to be any worse then it is.. ;(

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Great Lengths, like all other fusion methods are the worst extensions on the market for fragile hair types!

I have been doing extensions for several years, and I offer my clients about 5 different types of extensions, because as the others already said, it's not 'one size fits all'.

I would never charge a client that much.  Do you know that the hair probably only costs her about $300-$500, and the rest of that outrageous charge will be pure profit?  Now, I like profit just as much as anyone, but the girl is gouging you.

If I were you I would seriously reconsider.  At least have other consultations with other stylists who offer different methods and see what they have to say.

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wow, i didnt realize that there was that much profit! 

The only thing is... I live in Tulsa, Ok... I cant seem to find any salons that do them....ughh its so frustrating...   What would be the best method for fragile hair?

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Thank you metalgirl for jumping in there as a professional  with some honest advise. I certainly dont want to badmouth any professional but when they only do one method and the most expensive method and also a method that can be very damaging I say....find someone ELSE!

Hang in there Julzz start reseaching the methods yourself, and we can help you locate a stylist or even someone in your area that would help you do your own. This is a very active board....

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what would you say is the best extensions for damaged hair?  thanks for the help!

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Ok I'll jump in.

Hi Julzz.  I have been doing Great Lengths for over 4 years now.  In addition I offer many other methods because I extremely feel that there is no such thing as a 'one-size-fits-all' method. 

I charge for my consults and apply that to their service should they decide to have the service done.  I give them as many samples as they need and let them play with them before they commit to a huge order.  I never give them deadlines too.  And I never tell them this method is better than this.  And since I have naturally long strong hair I have the luxury to wear whatever method I want so there's NO BIAS approach in my business.

Getting back to Great Lengths {GL}, in my experiences, I have to say that for wearability in comparison with other human hair- it's THE BOMB- especially if you need the blondes or any light colors.  If you need darker colors and want to save money than any other human hair is fine.  The GL coloring process uses no bleach {chemically stipping the hair's 7 color layers to achieve desired color} so the cuticle layers stay strong and remain healthy - virgin.

To figure out if your hair is in bad shape for human hair extensions, do some test strands and pull trying different areas on the head.  If it stretches, it is good.  If it breaks, refrain from any attachments that uses your hair for anchoring.  You may need a different solution.

Overall, I intend to have Great Lengths live on in my business as opposed to the others I have now discontinued.

Here are your pros and cons and in between

Pros- excellent wearability, no bleach so colors stay bright, bond is patented, very strong and does not disinergrate.

Cons- expensive {in order to keep my account open with GL, I have to charge $7-$14 per strand}, removal process is very long, high maintenance is required, anti-tap needed after every washing, hair roots must be dried to keep the bonds' integrity.  

In Between- GL uses Indian hair.  Indian hair genetically has a very strong curl and medium to thick hair shaft.   Now if you like a softer wave and finer hair shaft go European or if you like straight with a medium to thick hair shaft go Asian.

So I hope you at least got a hair sample to play with prior to spending your $2000.  As for the tip, I get anywhere from 0% to 100%.

Best of luck, Charlene

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wow cybermane.. thanks for all the help!!-- no she didnt give me a hair sample ;(  

The thing with my hair is... like the top if it is pretty healthy I mean its okay... not so damaged... its just the bottom of it... its pretty damaged... towards the ends... so I dont know if that changes anything??

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Hi again!

Julzz, if you feel 101% very comfortable, I would jump in an Go For It.  But if you don't, I would seek elsewhere and get more consults.

But getting back to the ends of your hair.  That's fine.  It's the install site {the roots} that you need to worry about {in other words, how delicate are they to support the weight}.  To get the best results, you need to start with a strong foundation.

Sounds like you'll be alright.  Hey, post some before and after pics too!!!

-Charlene

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Okay I will def. post before & after...  I'm really excited...

By the way... do you know how much would be average to tip for 2,000 dollar extensions???  I have no idea!! lol

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Hi!
So you have your mind set for Great Lengths- 101%, right?

Great choice!  .  I get anywhere from 0%-100%, so it's entirely up to you.  I own my own business so some feel that they don't need to tip.  But a lot of people do tip me and emotionally, I feel that they love my work when they show their appreciation in whatever percentages

Brad Johns owns a coloring salon in 5th Av in NYC.  He charges me $300 for hilites.  I give him a $60 tip, $20 to his assistant, and $10 to the person who gives me a complimentary blow dry and $5 to the coat check girl.  So altogether I spent 30% just on tips.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Charlene



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If you were my client and I was making $1500 profit off of you, I would not expect a tip!  She better buy you lunch too!
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I know that 2,000 dollars is alot for hair... but to me if it makes you happy then money isnt an object. yeah she is probably ripping me off... but, I've done searches for hair extensions in Dallas & all the top salons are from 1500 to like 3000... thats alot I know but... I just dont want to do them myself... & I want to go to the best salon... I guess I'm one of those people who still say "you get what you pay for"   I guess I will find out... LOL

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One thing I would watch is the length of time this person said they could stay in for. I find that they will say 6 months which would in your mind justify the price but 2 to three is more like it if your lucky and your hair isn't the type to matt up.
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Marie, She told me 6 months! but, she said that I would have to come in for "touchups"
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