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Posted: January 15 2006 at 7:24pm
There's really no lessons needed for a good removal, just lots of patience and practice!
I did a removal on the EM on Friday, and it wasn't easy. We almost got through a whole movie (I have a DVD player in my salon) with the time it took to get all the gunk out.
I used the orange remover and also some alcohol- that stuff that's 90% or whatever. I didn't have enought acetone on hand...
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 1:09am
I found the easiest removal was to spray the bond with oil(Amms), then
squeeze it with the same type of pliers(sp?) that you would use with
removing regular bonded extensions. And they slipped out super easy. I
did not re-use the extensions afterwards tho. I first tried it with the
extend magic tool, re-heating them, but it sucked at removing them. But
found it easiest to just spray and squeeze. They came right out after sqeezing them with the pliers
Hope that this has helped.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 1:16am
Julie - thanks so much for your response. What type of pliers do you use? Once the extensions came out, how did you remove the residual adhesive?
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 1:27am
I just used the pliers that are used for removing extendtubes or any
fusion methods. And with the oil all the residue came right off. I was
suprised at how easy it was. And had to wash the persons hair after of
course to remove the oil. It was really just like removing a
regular fusion extension method, but with oil, instead of acetone.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 1:33am
Once you crunched the bonds, did you need to comb it out or did it flake away?
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 1:35am
Julie - do you use extendmagic on clients or just for yourself? I am interested in your thoughts about this method....
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 3:13pm
aphrodite-
im sorry i jjust dont get it, you are a liscensed stylist doing extensions on paying clients and you dont know how to remove the ones you are installing? shouldnt you have first practiced and learned on a doll head before you did on a client? i am sorry but i am so not trying to be hurtful, however i do so much repair work on clients from other folks who dont really know what it is they are supposes to be doing, it is really sad to see what work is going on out there. before i ever installed one single strand on Anyone, i practiced for weeks until i KNEW for sure what i was doing. poor removal can be detrimental to the integrity of the hair. i am very glad u are on here learning however, there are lots of classses you could be taking to learn all the methods hands on, espciailly since you are a stylist poromoting extensions. Again, donte take this wrong, i am not trying to offend you, i am just trying to gain understanding for your decision, besides the fact i am concerned for your clients and your reputation.
Bringing beauty, one head at a time...
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 3:39pm
Tangles - If we could all be as perfect as you...first of all, I would appreciate it if you would stop attempting to slander me and my abilities. You know nothing about either.
Your ignorance is sad. You know nothing about what I have or have not done. You know nothing about my education yet you presume to.
I certainly know how to remove what I install. I am simply exploring different methods and asking what has worked best for others, as there are many ways to both install, and remove, extensions successfully.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 5:38pm
Ok enough girls!
Laura, I have went out of my way to help you, and I didn't mind doing it, but if you seriously want to get into the business, than you must pay your dues in terms of paying money and taking the time to take classes and practice a lot to learn the craft, as many of us have done.
I think that's what annoys Tangles, and me as well, that we have spent big money and time on learning extensions, and some people try to exploit our knowlege without giving anything in return.
Tangles is a good friend on mine, a very helpful, kind, and spiritual person, and I will not stand by and watch someone jump down her throat for simply pointing out what turns out to be the facts.
You're right, Tangles doesn't know anything about your ability and what you have or have not done, but I do. Shall I let the cat out of the bag and tell everyone you're not licensed to do hair? You do excellent permanent make up, and have a nice tanning salon, but it is apparent that you aren't a hairstylist.
I'm not saying that an unlicensed person can't build a successful hair extension business, as the law permits, but invest the time and money that it takes, and then give something back to our hair community to whom you have so far only bombarded with assinine questions.
Sorry, I really didn't want to say anything, but your attitude is rude, pushy, and demanding, and that's not how you get ahead in this world, it turns people off to helping you.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 5:48pm
Whoa....girls...please stop it! This board is a place for ANYONE to ask as many questions as necessary. Licenced....DIYers...whoever! Please....STOP it....I hate it when this stuff happens here.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 6:04pm
Wow. Lisa. I am surprised and hurt.
I never once claimed to be a cosmetologist, my state does not require this to do hair extensions. The EM is new to most people, and as far as I know, many of you have never used it. I simply wanted to see if anyone has discovered something new to expedite removals.
I wanted to be the best extensionist I could and therefore have spent countless hours on this forum reading what the experts here have to share. I did not realize my questions were assinine. For those who feel this is the case, I apologize for wasting your time. I will not post again.
I have a very successful extensionist business even though I am relatively new to the field. I attribute this to natural talent, great advice from this board, and relationship/people skills that transcend professions. I wish you all great success.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 6:11pm
Please note that fighting in this community has rules.
NO, I repeat NO hair pulling allowed for obvious reasons.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself.
I can understand why any formally trained professional would feel upset and exploited by someone that hasn't made the same effort and investment to learn a trade as them.
It trivializes all their hard work.
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 6:14pm
Aphrodite I understand your reaction to someone questioning your ability, but if you read tangles post again you will see she ment only the best in pointing out that you shouldn't be installing extensions if you are not experienced in how to remove them. I agree with what she said completely, I have had to learn to deal with honesty from people and it has really had a big affect on my life. Try to read your questions again and you will see where she was coming from!
fyi I know my spelling sux!
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 6:32pm
I can GAURANTEE you that I know as much about extensions as many of the licensed professionals in my area....Ive called MANY and talked to them about doing MINE and I wouldnt even consider trusting my hair to ANY ONE of them in my area.
Ive been doing several methods for many years mostly on myself...and a few begging girlfriends . I DID NOT have any formal training, only videos....practice and THIS and a few other boards...but Im confident that I could do as good or BETTER than anyone in MY area that Ive ever spoke with.
There are many professions that people have worked their way to the top, and earned their title by hands on hard work...not through formal training or formal education. And they are NO LESS qaulified than someone who went to college or school to learn. And in many cases they are MUCH more qualified.
FOR GOD sakes....hair is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE....nor MEDICINE. I believe a DIYer or non licensed person with the talent, the desire, and the willingness to learn can become successful, qualified and capable of doing hair extensions. And for those that are in a state that doesnt require a cosmotology license, then they have the right to set up business....
Having said all that....I highly respect the professionals that have mastered extensions, the ones who have worked hard to learn all the different methods and who constantly are tweaking their knowledge....but trust me you are far and few between, and not all licensed professionals are equal...some have NO business being in business!
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Posted: January 17 2006 at 6:36pm
thanks lisa and fab- for your imput-
Sher- i agree with you- espicially you can start your own business.
my point in all of this is why would someone who has not PRACTICED a removal method beforhand, install and then attempt to remove after the fact it is done on a client. your part about some not having any business doing extensions, i totally agree! i cant tell you the repair work i do daily from other stylist just starting out an making a mess on someones poor head! If your just starting out, good for you, start out and learn on a doll head! Then, go foward with clients or friends.
aphrodite- if you would of read what i was saying and not get so definsive, then maybe just maybe you would hear what we are trying to say, most times when someone gets hurt or defensive, there is usually some truth in whats bothering them.
i have never professed to be perfect, just professional at what i do.
what ever state you live in, you need a liscense to cut hair, wether it be extension hair or not, and certainly all extension hair needs to be cut to blend together.
i refuse to go tit for tat with you, i have a very successful business for over 15 yrs, have a great rep on this board, so saying rude things to me simply just doesnt work. As i stated in my first post, i was not trying to offend you. Far as trying to slander your abilities, that didnt even come to mind, i was just going off of what YOU said!
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