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    Posted: May 04 2006 at 11:33am
Originally posted by kristie m kristie m wrote:

It's funny... when I first started reading about extensions on this site
last year I had NO idea of what any of this stuff meant. I actually
thought that extensions were attached at the ends of the hair rather
than at the roots. I remember reading posts about "Yaki" hair and
wondering if it was hair from yaks!
There's a little truth to that.. Some of the cheaper Yaki hair actually did include animal hair.. In fact I stumbled across a site the other day, and they were selling some sort of human and Yak hair blend.. (I didn't bookmark it because I would never buy their product)
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It's funny... when I first started reading about extensions on this site
last year I had NO idea of what any of this stuff meant. I actually
thought that extensions were attached at the ends of the hair rather
than at the roots. I remember reading posts about "Yaki" hair and
wondering if it was hair from yaks!
Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE!
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Originally posted by kristie m kristie m wrote:

Laffin, Diva... my first thought when I saw that was "Hey I may be an
old lady but I'm not ready for GOAT HAIR EXTENSIONS quite yet!!!"
LOL!!!
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Laffin, Diva... my first thought when I saw that was "Hey I may be an
old lady but I'm not ready for GOAT HAIR EXTENSIONS quite yet!!!"
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Originally posted by kristie m kristie m wrote:

Wagman Primus is a reputable company
that has been around a long time, mostly selling paint brushes, of all
things.
And apparently they sell Goat and Ox hair too.. LOL
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This is the coolest thing ever! Amm is a queen amongst women!

I've already placed my order for a pound of that gorgeous Remi hair
(yep, exactly the same as Amm's Elite Remi.) $192.50! I'm in
frigging hair heaven here! Wagman Primus is a reputable company
that has been around a long time, mostly selling paint brushes, of all
things. Patty has been most helpful. I have no qualms about giving
my business to these people. Once again, I weep for you non-
brunettes--this is blonde discrimination at its worst!      
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Originally posted by gsmilie gsmilie wrote:

Also, did this hair come on the fantastic weft that the Elite Remy comes on or did you send it out to be made that way?
It's the SAME hair weft and all!!

Forgot to add, Aphrodite is selling the SAME hair too, and she is offering smaller increments (4, 8, & 12 oz) for ladies who want this hair, but don't want to buy a full 16 oz.



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Amm, does this mean that you are no longer going to sell this hair?

Also, did this hair come on the fantastic weft that the Elite Remy comes on or did you send it out to be made that way?

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Amm - just curious who the LUSH hair supplier was?  I know there were issues about consistancy, but Id still like to know!
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Thanks AMM, I have questions? Is the deep curly hair kinky/coarse type at all? And is deep curly blend'able with the Euro curl? Thanks
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My pleasure! So many people were asking and I simply do not have the time to devote to this anymore.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to inquire. I have had my hands on just about every single texture and tested it backwards and forwards.
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Originally posted by Koffee Brown Koffee Brown wrote:

AMM, who is the vendor for the kinky curly Elite, if u can share that info. TIA
Hot off the presses from the BHM..

 

OMG!!!!! AMM rocks!! She gave up the Elite supplier!! Now we can all can buy this hair direct from the source!!! I am BEYOND EXCITED!!! I called them and requested samples and price lists.. The girl Patty who works there is really nice..

 

Here's the scoop:

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=22314&am p;am p;am p;PID=314757#314757

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=22314&am p;am p;am p;PID=314780#314780

Company: Wagman Primus Group
Website:
http://www.wagmanprimus.com/product_detail.asp?pl_id=11& type=product%5Fline&id=1133

Contact Information: Patty

U.S.

Europe

Wagman Primus Group, LP

Wagman Primus Group, LP

10 Runway Road

Horkesley Lodge

Suite I

Great Horkesley

Levittown, PA 19057

Colchester, Essex C064BZ

Tel:  + 1 215 269 1600

Tel/Fax: + 44 0 1206 273276

Fax: + 1 215 269 1611

Email: trading@wagprim.com

Email: trading@wagprim.com

Here's the price list for the Premium Indian hair.. This is the SAME hair that AMM & Aphrodite are selling with the microthin wefts!!! The prices listed are for all textures. Minimum purchase is 1 pound (16 oz).

8” 

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 $   93.00

per lb

10”

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 $ 136.50

per lb

12”

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 $ 167.50

per lb

14”

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 $ 192.00

per lb

16”

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 $ 217.50

per lb

18”

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 $ 242.50

per lb

20”

-

 $ 266.50

per lb

22”

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 $ 297.50

per lb

24”

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 $ 328.50

per lb

 
This hair is not unprocessed (virgin) hair, but it is REMY hair (remy=cuticles aligned, & intact). Wagman is the hair supplier for Extensions Plus. This means that this hair is some of THE BEST hair you can get your hands on. Here's pics of this hair.. Roll your mouse over the pics for the descriptions..
Euro Curl and Deep CurlPremium Indian Patterns after being washed.
Relaxed Straight, Natural Body, Body Wave, French Body Wave, Euro Curl and Deep CurlFrench Body Wave, Relaxed Straight, Body Wave and Natural Body
 
For ladies who want this Premium Indian Hair, but do not wish to purchase hair in 1 pound increments, you can by this SAME hair from Aphrodite's in 4, 8, & 12oz increments. (www.Aphroditessalon.com)
 
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In addition to the Premium Indian hair shown above,Wagman also sells bulk hair and handtied Indian & Malaysian hair. This is the price list and product descriptions for that hair. (Keep in mind this is different hair) This hair also requires a 1 pound minumum purchase. I will post pics of this as I come across the pics..

All Natural Human Hair - Bulk (non wefted)

Price shown for 5 Ib order versus 1-4 Ib orders (larger amount is for orders less than 5 pounds)

REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT  - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 20/24"

REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 28/32"

$130.00/LB

$180.00/LB

$140.00/LB

$202.00/LB

REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT  - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be  24/28"

REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 22/26"

$150.00/LB

$193.00/LB

$160.00/LB

$215.00/LB 

REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT  - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 28/32"

NON-REMI

$170.00/LB

$78.00/LB

$180.00/LB

$83.00/LB 24"

REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT  - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 16/20"

NON-REMI

$188.00/LB

$84.00/LB

$198.00/LB

$89.00/LB 26"

REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 20/24"

NON-REMI

$155.00/LB

$90.00/LB

$117.00/LB

$95.00/LB

REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 24/28"

$165.00/LB

$187.00/LB

HAND TIED WEFTED INDIAN HUMAN HAIR:

18/20" REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT WEFT

20/24" REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT WEFT

$220.00/LB

$252.00/LB

$212.00/LB

$222.00/LB

$230.00ILB

$262.00/LB

16/20" REMI NATURAL CURLY WEFT

20/24" REMI NA TURAL CURLY WEFT

$222.00/LB

$232.00/LB

CHINESE HUMAN HAIR (All Natural Human Hair)

16/20" REMI (Malaysian texture)

20/24" REMI (Malaysian texture)

$l64.00/LB

$184.00/LB

24/28" REMI (Malaysian texture)

28/32" REMI (Malaysian texture)

$210.00/LB

$275.00/LB

 


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Originally posted by gsmilie gsmilie wrote:

Ok, here a another thought, has anybody tried re-inforcing the wefts with Keratin glue from a glue gun?  I may try a section and see if it works, and what the results are.  I hate to waste this hair and it is so soft and beautiful, but it just looks better on than in my sink!!

Hopefully Laura can find a better supplier, one that is willing to stand up for their product.

 

Keratin may not stand up to oils and other hair care products long term..

Yeah too bad about the supplier.. I saw the e-mails.. He's an arrogant a$$.. I think she's done with wefted hair for now.. At least the hair won't go to waste.. She's gonna cut the wefts and use it for pretipped hiar..



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Ok, here a another thought, has anybody tried re-inforcing the wefts with Keratin glue from a glue gun?  I may try a section and see if it works, and what the results are.  I hate to waste this hair and it is so soft and beautiful, but it just looks better on than in my sink!!

Hopefully Laura can find a better supplier, one that is willing to stand up for their product.

 

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Originally posted by asinnamon asinnamon wrote:

I have washed & conditioned(in hot water) and they were fine...I don't have them in yet as I have not colored them.  But, so far so good.   I make handmade beaded jewelry and I have a show on Sunday, so I haven't had too much extra time.  I also took my lush out yesterday due to slippage & shedding.  I don;t really have enough of anything on a weft right now to do an install...I'll keep you posted tho!!

Amanda

So no mushy stuff, cracking, peeling, etc?? and the shedding stopped??? So you used the GS-Hypo jewelry glue??? Does this make the wefts hard??

Sorry for all the questions.. I am just excited..

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I have washed & conditioned(in hot water) and they were fine...I don't have them in yet as I have not colored them.  But, so far so good.   I make handmade beaded jewelry and I have a show on Sunday, so I haven't had too much extra time.  I also took my lush out yesterday due to slippage & shedding.  I don;t really have enough of anything on a weft right now to do an install...I'll keep you posted tho!!

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Originally posted by asinnamon asinnamon wrote:

I sealed them with GS-Hypo cement.  I have no idea if the cement will withstand shampoo & oils from the skin, but it was worth a try...So far it has controlled the shedding down to almost nothing.  I still need to color & wash both wefts, we will see how they hold up....

Amanda

Have you tested this yet?? How did it hold up to washing and coloring?? I tried vinyl glue on some H&H hndtied I had, and it was great until the water hit it.. I ran it under warm water, and the glue got soft, mushy, and tacky.. can't have that in my hair..
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Okay ladies here's the latest and greatest (and hopefully the LAST) bit of news on this hair...
 
I just got off the phone with Laura... (AKA Aphrodite) IMO she is really wants to make this right for ANYONE who has already purchased the wefted hair.. She is only having issues with the wefted hair.. She has had no reported issues with shedding on the pre-tipped Diva hair. Therefore, she is planning on discontinuing the sale of the wefted hair until such a time as either her supplier improves the quality of the wefted hair or until she finds a different supplier for wefted hair. IF she carries wefted hair again, she will not be using zig zag wefts. Look for updates on her website in the next couple of days to this effect.
 
If you bought hair and are having problems with shedding, you need to call or e-mail her immediately.. She is more than happy to refund your money completely or exchange the hair for more hair which she will reinforce for you with FrayBlock. She is acknowledging that FrayBlock may NOT stop the shedding, and so if you choose an exchange instead of a refund, you would be agreeing to the exchange KNOWING this in advance.
 
Now before you start to post an "Oh no she didn't.." message, keep this in mind ladies.. you DO NOT HAVE TO exchange the hair.. Laura is offering to refund your money upon receipt of the defective product, and to those who planned on or wanted to buy wefted hair, don't.. She is not selling the wefted hair to anyone else. MOST of the wefted hair she received is having the same shedding issue. Therefore she really can only offer two options, give you your money back or try to see if she can stop the shedding and send you new hair reinforced with Fray Block.. There is no third option because frankly her supplier is being a butt about this.. (he insists the hair is shedding because it is being mishandled..)
 
I am opting for the refund.. The hair is really gorgeous, and it could be used for braids or fusion if you do your own pretipping. Unfortunately the wefts cannot be repaired with FrayBlock. You also cannot reinforce the wefts using a sewing machine as sewing machine needles will cut the hair.. Unless you have wefting equipment, you cannot machine reinforce the wefts.
 
I spoke with Laura for over an hour, and I believe she is an honest and sincere woman. This is a terrible situation, and she wants to make it right for anyone who bought the hair. Please call her ASAP, she will take care of you....


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Oh my lordie!! I swore up and down I wasn't going to buy anything but NG, but I think I got to try that.  I can't believe that's permed! It looks sooo natural.  Is all of the kinky curly that tight? Is it tight in longer lengths like 20-24?

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Originally posted by Koffee Brown Koffee Brown wrote:

AMM, who is the vendor for the kinky curly Elite, if u can share that info. TIA


I'm responding to myself! Since I guess rest of yall knew i was tripping. I didn't realize AMM was selling THIS curly hair, i just thought she posted a pix of the curly hair as a wish list. So I apologize for being ignorant, but ReadingIsFundamental.. guess i need to slow down reading on the boards and not just look at the pretty pix.
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