Well, my supplier responded to my concerns, and I quote, "We have never had any complaints of shedding before....the only way the shedding would occur is if unusual force or pulling is being done to the hair"....
As you may suspect, this is completely unacceptable to me. Just as you do not want to have to reinforce wefts that you are paying good money for, neither do I. I am simply too busy. My plan is now this: I will use my current stock of hair for pre-tips. I will also be reinforcing all wefts ordered in stock with Fray block. Given this, all purchases will be non-refundable and will be at your own risk. For those of you who are having issues, and have already purchased, again, I will work with you until you are satisfied.
Unless my supplier changes his tune, he will not be receiving any more business from me. I welcome anyones ideas or thoughts about this. Thanks
It is so convienent to blame someone else!! Instead of saying, wow it must have been a bad batch, I'm sorry.....I only ordered 1 ounce of this hair. I'm glad now that I didn;t order more. Aphrodite actually sent me more then I ordered because the length is not what I wanted. Very nice of her, even sent me a little card. The wefts are a mess, both of them have hair coming out of the top & even some are broken. They both have nits, one is loaded with them. They also were shedding BAD just when I ran my fingers thru the hair. I sealed them with GS-Hypo cement. I have no idea if the cement will withstand shampoo & oils from the skin, but it was worth a try...So far it has controlled the shedding down to almost nothing. I still need to color & wash both wefts, we will see how they hold up....
What is the hair in your 3rd pic? Its BEAUTIFUL! The weft I mean Im so disapoointed and yes my wefts look just like the zig zag you are showing. With less hair now, KWIM?
The hair is the Elite French Body Wave. The weft is what's on all the Elite. It looks like this up close. The hair in that photo is the Kinky Curly Elite.
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WOW!!!! That hair is gorgeous I would probably be willing to commit a crime to have that
Hi essence! That's not EP hair, it's the Elite. I don't know if EP carries this line. If they do, it's hella 'spensive. They do sell the colored hair of this version at up to $198 per 2oz. =:o
Reinforcing wefts should be done to allow you to reinforce hand tied hair so you can cut the wefts safely without shedding.. Fray Block can also be used to help prevent normal shedding, but FrayBlock wasn't designed to stop or prevent EXCESSIVE shedding..
With the exception of EP hair (which as I have said many times BARELY sheds), I've come to accept that all other hair will shed to some degree or another.. I usually test the shedding factor by brushing the hair or running my fingers through it BEFOFE I install it.. This hair has failed this test.. I am losing BRUSHFULS or handfuls of hair, and it hasn't stopped.. FrayBlock isn't going to fix this, and IMO anyone with this hair who is experiencing similar shedding issues should get replacement hair, not this same hair reinforced with Fray Block..
I think she has made it clear she intends to take care of those of us who have already bought this hair and are having issues..
I will be speaking to Aphrodite this weekend, and I will let her know that I do not believe that FrayBlock alone will resolve the shedding.. I also do not believe she can machine reinforce this hair unless she has the right equipment to do it.. Regular sewing machine needles can cut and damage the hair and the weft.. I think she really wants to do right by everyone who bought this hair.. I will keep you all posted on what comes from my conversation with her....
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The hair is the Elite French Body Wave. The weft is what's on all the Elite. It looks like this up close. The hair in that photo is the Kinky Curly Elite.
The Elite relaxed straight hair.. is that relaxed straight as in relaxed African American texture??
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I have used the fray block on the Diva hair and I am still having tremendous shedding issues. Also, the fray block does not dry clear as it states, so you can only do one side of the weft if you have a dark color.
I love the way the hair feels, but if it keeps shedding, it will not last longer then 2 weeks....tops!!!
AMM, who is the vendor for the kinky curly Elite, if u can share that info. TIA
I'm responding to myself! Since I guess rest of yall knew i was
tripping. I didn't realize AMM was selling THIS curly hair, i just
thought she posted a pix of the curly hair as a wish list. So I
apologize for being ignorant, but ReadingIsFundamental.. guess i need
to slow down reading on the boards and not just look at the pretty pix.
Oh my lordie!! I swore up and down I wasn't going to buy anything but NG, but I think I got to try that. I can't believe that's permed! It looks sooo natural. Is all of the kinky curly that tight? Is it tight in longer lengths like 20-24?
Okay ladies here's the latest and greatest (and hopefully the LAST) bit of news on this hair...
I just got off the phone with Laura... (AKA Aphrodite) IMO she is really wants to make this right for ANYONE who has already purchased the wefted hair.. She is only having issues with the wefted hair.. She has had no reported issues with shedding on the pre-tipped Diva hair. Therefore, she is planning on discontinuing the sale of the wefted hair until such a time as either her supplier improves the quality of the wefted hair or until she finds a different supplier for wefted hair. IF she carries wefted hair again, she will not be using zig zag wefts. Look for updates on her website in the next couple of days to this effect.
If you bought hair and are having problems with shedding, you need to call or e-mail her immediately.. She is more than happy to refund your money completely or exchange the hair for more hair which she will reinforce for you with FrayBlock. She is acknowledging that FrayBlock may NOT stop the shedding, and so if you choose an exchange instead of a refund, you would be agreeing to the exchange KNOWING this in advance.
Now before you start to post an "Oh no she didn't.." message, keep this in mind ladies.. you DO NOT HAVE TO exchange the hair.. Laura is offering to refund your money upon receipt of the defective product, and to those who planned on or wanted to buy wefted hair, don't.. She is not selling the wefted hair to anyone else. MOST of the wefted hair she received is having the same shedding issue. Therefore she really can only offer two options, give you your money back or try to see if she can stop the shedding and send you new hair reinforced with Fray Block.. There is no third option because frankly her supplier is being a butt about this.. (he insists the hair is shedding because it is being mishandled..)
I am opting for the refund.. The hair is really gorgeous, and it could be used for braids or fusion if you do your own pretipping. Unfortunately the wefts cannot be repaired with FrayBlock. You also cannot reinforce the wefts using a sewing machine as sewing machine needles will cut the hair.. Unless you have wefting equipment, you cannot machine reinforce the wefts.
I spoke with Laura for over an hour, and I believe she is an honest and sincere woman. This is a terrible situation, and she wants to make it right for anyone who bought the hair. Please call her ASAP, she will take care of you....
Edited by Divavocals
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I sealed them with GS-Hypo cement. I have no idea if the cement will withstand shampoo & oils from the skin, but it was worth a try...So far it has controlled the shedding down to almost nothing. I still need to color & wash both wefts, we will see how they hold up....
Amanda
Have you tested this yet?? How did it hold up to washing and coloring?? I tried vinyl glue on some H&H hndtied I had, and it was great until the water hit it.. I ran it under warm water, and the glue got soft, mushy, and tacky.. can't have that in my hair..
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I have washed & conditioned(in hot water) and they were fine...I don't have them in yet as I have not colored them. But, so far so good. I make handmade beaded jewelry and I have a show on Sunday, so I haven't had too much extra time. I also took my lush out yesterday due to slippage & shedding. I don;t really have enough of anything on a weft right now to do an install...I'll keep you posted tho!!
I have washed & conditioned(in hot water) and they were fine...I don't have them in yet as I have not colored them. But, so far so good. I make handmade beaded jewelry and I have a show on Sunday, so I haven't had too much extra time. I also took my lush out yesterday due to slippage & shedding. I don;t really have enough of anything on a weft right now to do an install...I'll keep you posted tho!!
Amanda
So no mushy stuff, cracking, peeling, etc?? and the shedding stopped??? So you used the GS-Hypo jewelry glue??? Does this make the wefts hard??
Sorry for all the questions.. I am just excited..
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Ok, here a another thought, has anybody tried re-inforcing the wefts with Keratin glue from a glue gun? I may try a section and see if it works, and what the results are. I hate to waste this hair and it is so soft and beautiful, but it just looks better on than in my sink!!
Hopefully Laura can find a better supplier, one that is willing to stand up for their product.
Ok, here a another thought, has anybody tried re-inforcing the wefts with Keratin glue from a glue gun? I may try a section and see if it works, and what the results are. I hate to waste this hair and it is so soft and beautiful, but it just looks better on than in my sink!!
Hopefully Laura can find a better supplier, one that is willing to stand up for their product.
Keratin may not stand up to oils and other hair care products long term..
Yeah too bad about the supplier.. I saw the e-mails.. He's an arrogant a$$.. I think she's done with wefted hair for now.. At least the hair won't go to waste.. She's gonna cut the wefts and use it for pretipped hiar..
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AMM, who is the vendor for the kinky curly Elite, if u can share that info. TIA
Hot off the presses from the BHM..
OMG!!!!! AMM rocks!! She gave up the Elite supplier!! Now we can all can buy this hair direct from the source!!! I am BEYOND EXCITED!!! I called them and requested samples and price lists.. The girl Patty who works there is really nice..
Here's the price list for the Premium Indian hair.. This is the SAME hair that AMM & Aphrodite are selling with the microthin wefts!!! The prices listed are for all textures. Minimum purchase is 1 pound (16 oz).
8”
-
$93.00
per lb
10”
-
$ 136.50
per lb
12”
-
$ 167.50
per lb
14”
-
$ 192.00
per lb
16”
-
$ 217.50
per lb
18”
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$ 242.50
per lb
20”
-
$ 266.50
per lb
22”
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$ 297.50
per lb
24”
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$ 328.50
per lb
This hair is not unprocessed (virgin) hair, but it is REMY hair (remy=cuticles aligned, & intact). Wagman is the hair supplier for Extensions Plus. This means that this hair is some of THE BEST hair you can get your hands on. Here's pics of this hair.. Roll your mouse over the pics for the descriptions..
For ladies who want this Premium Indian Hair, but do not wish to purchase hair in 1 pound increments, you can by this SAME hair from Aphrodite's in 4, 8, & 12oz increments. (www.Aphroditessalon.com)
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In addition to the Premium Indian hair shown above,Wagman also sells bulk hair and handtied Indian & Malaysian hair. This is the price list and product descriptions for that hair. (Keep in mind this is different hair) This hair also requires a 1 pound minumum purchase. I will post pics of this as I come across the pics..
All Natural Human Hair - Bulk (non wefted)
Price shown for 5 Ib order versus 1-4 Ib orders (larger amount is for orders less than 5 pounds)
REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT- Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 20/24"
REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 28/32"
$130.00/LB
$180.00/LB
$140.00/LB
$202.00/LB
REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT- Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be24/28"
REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 22/26"
$150.00/LB
$193.00/LB
$160.00/LB
$215.00/LB
REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT- Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 28/32"
NON-REMI
$170.00/LB
$78.00/LB
$180.00/LB
$83.00/LB 24"
REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT- Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 16/20"
NON-REMI
$188.00/LB
$84.00/LB
$198.00/LB
$89.00/LB 26"
REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 20/24"
NON-REMI
$155.00/LB
$90.00/LB
$117.00/LB
$95.00/LB
REMI NATURAL CURLY - Single Drawn length of hair within bundle will be 24/28"
$165.00/LB
$187.00/LB
HAND TIED WEFTED INDIAN HUMAN HAIR:
18/20" REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT WEFT
20/24" REMI NATURAL STRAIGHT WEFT
$220.00/LB
$252.00/LB
$212.00/LB
$222.00/LB
$230.00ILB
$262.00/LB
16/20" REMI NATURAL CURLY WEFT
20/24" REMI NA TURAL CURLY WEFT
$222.00/LB
$232.00/LB
CHINESE HUMAN HAIR (All Natural Human Hair)
16/20" REMI (Malaysian texture)
20/24" REMI (Malaysian texture)
$l64.00/LB
$184.00/LB
24/28" REMI (Malaysian texture)
28/32" REMI (Malaysian texture)
$210.00/LB
$275.00/LB
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Now we can all can buy this hair direct from the source!!!
I called them and requested samples and price lists.. The girl Patty who works there is really nice..
