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Just make sure it's a CURVED needle.. the straight ones are difficult to use especially when you are sewing your own tracks..
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I am so sorry to report that your sew in tracks are not saveable.
The stitches are not sewn close together.
The braid itself is not sewn down.
The stitches are not neat.
You will have to take your hair down.
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Originally posted by Gina E Gina E wrote:

Hey Shiry...
Not to jack this thread...but do you use the undetectable sew-in method often? I took Marcella's class, too. Just curious on your experience. I've got one booked for Fri
Well, I liked doing the undetectable with the silicone lined rings. They stayed better for me. The one with the shrinkie was pretty good also. I've tried it on a couple of clients and it lays pretty flat overall. I like it, not the ring I was trained on, it never stayed in the hair for me; I purchased some rings from Dr. locs and they still don't work for me, they don't hold without slipping. What was your experience?
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Shiry, do you think I should report back tothe shop owner that these didn't last long?  OR should I just chaulk it up to a learning experience?  And, do I have to take them down now, or can I wait until the become uncomfortable or show? 
 
I'm not thrilled I just wasted $130.....Cry
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Considering they have been in a short time I think you should go back to the shop owner. All the things that I mentioned comes from a professional point of view, but here is what you can say if you are going back to have services redone.
I just got my hair done_________ and I have not shampooed my hair as often as I normally do and my tracks have slipped a great deal. I was examining my hair and it looks as if my hair is more than 6 weeks old. Is there any type of gaurantee that you provide for individuals of my hair texture?
 
If they say: You must have shampooed or brushed to hard.
 
you say: I hold my tracks at the base as I brush and I use a looper brush to brush my hair.
 
Any other questions or anything just give me a holla, i can tell pretty  much what is going to be said, but just give me a ring and I'll help as much as I can.
 
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See I KNEW the hair Doctor could help here!!! Shiry I was gonna post something similar in regards as to WHAT to say when you call the shop..
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I emailed her already.  We'll see.  I actually wouldhave said all those things, cause, I really was gentle with these.  My guess is that she will come back and say this is a temporary style and I wouldn't have gotten more then 2 weeks out of it anyway.....It says something to this effect on thier website, and altho they don't specifically say weaves, they did say cornrows.  So, we will see.  I'm hesitant to go back and get them redone.  One, because, I literaly would have to pull my son out of school for a day, drive a couple hours to grandparents house, then drive over an hour and a half down to the shop.  Two, because I'm worried my hair would just do the same thing again.  Maybe it'll turn out okay and she will offer some $$ back to me. 
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Well on causcasian hair I think two things need to happen to make this method last longer.

1. The braids have to be sewn together BEFORE the tracks are sewn on
2. I think a net sewn over the foundation is a MUST with hair that is prone to loosen faster.

I believe you did all the right things.. I think your install was not the best.. Shiry has caucasian clients as does my stylist.. Now granted most caucasian clients cannot wear sew ins for 8-12 weeks.. However 4-6 weeks is very possible with a good install..


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Go figure, huh?  The only place I find does a crummy job......I must be able to find another salon closer.  There are others down there, just not in great areas.  There is a shop in Mattapan MA that even uses and carries Bohyme, but I'm not going anywhere near there.  Living in the sticks for the last 3 years has taken some of the city girl out of me Embarrassed.
 
Hey, how soon do you think I need to take these down?
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Well, I agree with you especially if have to be totally inconvenienced by this, but in order for that business to be able to get more caucasian clients they need to know and see their mistakes. As far as money being refunded, I don't think that is going to happen. Now since this is an issue on their part necessary arrangements should be made to make sure you are happy with your experience.......Since you don't have a full install, you have braids throughout your hair, your braids should have been sewn down for reinforcement.
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Originally posted by Divavocals Divavocals wrote:

Just make sure it's a CURVED needle.. the straight ones are difficult to use especially when you are sewing your own tracks..
 
they have curved needels there- they are used for quliting- but i think they are probally pointed and could prick you. so if you go this route try rubbing the tip on cement to dull it...
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Originally posted by Shirilyn Shirilyn wrote:

Considering they have been in a short time I think you should go back to the shop owner. All the things that I mentioned comes from a professional point of view, but here is what you can say if you are going back to have services redone.
I just got my hair done_________ and I have not shampooed my hair as often as I normally do and my tracks have slipped a great deal. I was examining my hair and it looks as if my hair is more than 6 weeks old. Is there any type of gaurantee that you provide for individuals of my hair texture?
 
If they say: You must have shampooed or brushed to hard.
 
you say: I hold my tracks at the base as I brush and I use a looper brush to brush my hair.
 
Any other questions or anything just give me a holla, i can tell pretty  much what is going to be said, but just give me a ring and I'll help as much as I can.
 
Shiry
 
 
 
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Thanks you guys, I love my job. I just don't send anything out of my salon.

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Originally posted by Shirilyn Shirilyn wrote:

Thanks you guys, I love my job. I just don't send anything out of my salon.

Shiry
Wish we could send you to Asinnamon to you...Cry I know you would hook her up!!!Tongue

Edited by Divavocals - October 15 2006 at 5:51pm
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Me too. Good luck Asinnamon.

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Thanks!  I'll get over it...I have calls into a couple other salons that may or may not do weaves.  We'll see, I may just go the LG route again until I can save up for a professional fusion install.
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You know what I forgot to ask yah?  How do I take these out?  Just clip the thread, take the weft off, untie the braids and comb?
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Oh yeah I forgot to mention since you are removing it on your own use a seam ripper. Feel along the thread. If that doesn't work have someone take it down. The thread is brown so whomever takes it down will see the thread. And then you take the braid down.
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Originally posted by Shirilyn Shirilyn wrote:

Originally posted by Gina E Gina E wrote:

Hey Shiry...
Not to jack this thread...but do you use the undetectable sew-in method often? I took Marcella's class, too. Just curious on your experience. I've got one booked for Fri
Well, I liked doing the undetectable with the silicone lined rings. They stayed better for me. The one with the shrinkie was pretty good also. I've tried it on a couple of clients and it lays pretty flat overall. I like it, not the ring I was trained on, it never stayed in the hair for me; I purchased some rings from Dr. locs and they still don't work for me, they don't hold without slipping. What was your experience?
Shiry
 
This week will be my first "real" install using this method on a client. (I've only practiced my stirching on my doll heads) I ordered the silicone rings, I figured they'd give a longer hold. The only problem I see with shrinks, is that they can't be retightened.
Do you use the stitch Marcella showed?(The one where you crisscross your loop and pull the needle through) I'm finding myself just doing a half hitch(coming under and up)
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Yes, I do. I make my stitches close thought. I just didn't like the regular rings, I think it was that brand.
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