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    Posted: October 16 2006 at 1:24pm
Hey, I was wondering if anyone has used Jessica simpson & Ken Paves new clip ins?? or what anyone thinks of them?
 
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I haven't but they look cool. They're just kind of expensive though. 

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Have you tried them?

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the human hair clipins are going to be 500.00!!! that is just crazy!
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yep barbielocs, that's crazy but people, who don't do much research, probably figure the price of great lengths is much higher so this is a cheaper alternative.

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thats so true. i happily paid £100 prob bout $200 for synthetic monofibre clip ins a few years ago before i knew anything about extensionsStern%20Smile 
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Yeah, I paid $250 for one skin weft track with clips. I'm so embarrased to admit that.

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I currently have fusion (cinderella hair) I've been getting them done for about a year now... and something has gone wrong.. the bonds are starting to come apart.. and I've only had them 2 months. and they shed like CRAZY... so I'm looking into getting some clip in's til I find another place to get my extensions done... which could be awhile.. I just dont know how good they really do look? does anyone use them? all the before and after pics I've seen look REALLY good, but I want mine to be thick... I just didnt know if you could get a whole lot of clipins in your hair?
 
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I saw the ad for them and they look really cool! The only thing I didn't like was that it's not real hair. I've use synthetic falls before and I liked them but I prefer now to wear real human hair these days. I haven't seen any of her hair line in human hair but I saw barbielocs mention above that they are going to be $500. That's pretty expensive but maybe they'll be worth it. I guess we'll see : )
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Originally posted by JulieKay JulieKay wrote:

I currently have fusion (cinderella hair) I've been getting them done for about a year now... and something has gone wrong.. the bonds are starting to come apart.. and I've only had them 2 months. and they shed like CRAZY... so I'm looking into getting some clip in's til I find another place to get my extensions done... which could be awhile.. I just dont know how good they really do look? does anyone use them? all the before and after pics I've seen look REALLY good, but I want mine to be thick... I just didnt know if you could get a whole lot of clipins in your hair?
 
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hi one of the methods i do is cinderella. i never used to but they changed there bonds over the last year. they used to be gummy ad shed.. now they are hard and really do not shed. i love them and they are great and cheaper than gl. the bond now reminds me of gl. maybe you have an older version on cinderella? are the bonds gummy or hard?
 
ps do you use the products from there line esp there ph balancer- it really helps keep the bonds and hair nice. plus if you had them for 2 months it is almost time for them to come out- i tell people 3 months- 4 months max if they take really good care and do maintenance on them.


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Originally posted by Cali-Kristin Cali-Kristin wrote:

I saw the ad for them and they look really cool! The only thing I didn't like was that it's not real hair. I've use synthetic falls before and I liked them but I prefer now to wear real human hair these days. I haven't seen any of her hair line in human hair but I saw barbielocs mention above that they are going to be $500. That's pretty expensive but maybe they'll be worth it. I guess we'll see : )
 
they are selling it on hsn and here on hair boutique. i dont see hoe clip ins can be worth 500$ ! i wonder if the human hair is asian or indian or what? it does not say! you know that price is because she is endorsing it and all the advertising! i love her, but i don't think i will buy her 500.00 clip ins- i will make my own... lol i actually place an order to you (kristen) last night for supplys to make them for some customerBig%20smile
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I ordered the Jessica Simpson/Ken Paves clip-in...only to be dissapointed by the quality of synth. and curl pattern. Good concept, though! Only I'm CONVINCED I can make one...BETTER!
Here is alink showing the construction of the base
http://www.hairextensions.com/product.php?productid=5&cat=0&page=1

Unfortunately the dark brown I ordered is too dark(I'm a 2/3) Go figure!

Though I will be trying to fasion one of my own b4 I return it to HSN.
Like I said...the concept is great...the hair is not!!
It is basically constructed on stretch elastic with clips sewn in around the perimeter

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Originally posted by barbielocs barbielocs wrote:

Originally posted by JulieKay JulieKay wrote:

I currently have fusion (cinderella hair) I've been getting them done for about a year now... and something has gone wrong.. the bonds are starting to come apart.. and I've only had them 2 months. and they shed like CRAZY... so I'm looking into getting some clip in's til I find another place to get my extensions done... which could be awhile.. I just dont know how good they really do look? does anyone use them? all the before and after pics I've seen look REALLY good, but I want mine to be thick... I just didnt know if you could get a whole lot of clipins in your hair?
 
Thanks :)
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hi one of the methods i do is cinderella. i never used to but they changed there bonds over the last year. they used to be gummy ad shed.. now they are hard and really do not shed. i love them and they are great and cheaper than gl. the bond now reminds me of gl. maybe you have an older version on cinderella? are the bonds gummy or hard?
 
ps do you use the products from there line esp there ph balancer- it really helps keep the bonds and hair nice. plus if you had them for 2 months it is almost time for them to come out- i tell people 3 months- 4 months max if they take really good care and do maintenance on them.
 
 
I've used Cinderella for about a year.. and the last 2 installs have been pure hell, the bonds are VERY gummy.. and sometimes when I brush my hair.. there is peices of glue in my brush.. its really odd.. the bonds just kinda split in half... and my hair is SOOO much thinner then it was.. it really pisses me off.. LOL.  it sheds like CRAZY!  Its like when I'm done brushing I  dont know how I have any extensions left because all my hair is in the brush..  
& the hair doesn't feel the same, it like bunches up and gets frizzy.. I usually wear it curled.. but the curls dont stay like they used to... I told my hair girl the problem... and she doesnt have much to say about it other then.. "the lighter hair has more problems then the darker hair because of how much they have to bleach it"  (I have really blonde hair)
So, I dont know how true that is..
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Its just another revolution like glamourhair has.Except thats only $280 for human hair.
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hey juliekay

i do cinderell all the time. the old ones are gummy- the new ones- ones i just did today are not. i use them on clients and right now myself because they have awesome blonde shades. do you think maybe you stylist is not using real cinderella hair? do you see it come with the cinderella tags on it? i had a client once who thought she had gl- they were not. i always show my clients the hair coming out of the package so they know they are getting what they paid for. here is a good clue on if it is cinderela. there bonds come out with alcohol. not acetone. gummy ones come out with acetone- so try it and see.

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Hi,
 
I have been indirectly involved in Jessica Simpson hair for about 4 1/2 years. 
 
When I first met Ken Paves in Dallas 4 1/2 years ago....he was doing a photo shoot with Jess for 17 Magazine.  I spent 2 1/2 days with him and Jess and OMG, he had to change her hair so many times.  I was exhausted watching him.
 
He had a ton of wigs and hair extensions prepared in advance to speed up the process but it took him a really long time even with advanced cutting, curling, styling. 
 
Ken is from a small town outside of Detroit and he has a very special bond with his mom and his family.  He is definitely a big name in the hair world but he is a very kind and loving person who gives so much to charity to help people and he adores women.
 
Especially everyday peope that struggle to look nice.
 
About 2 1/2 years ago he asked me to help him find a wig manufacturer that would take his invention which is patented for making clip on hair that he developed.  What he discovered was that if he attached the hair extensions to a half lace style cap, he could easily snap them into the hair so that it would be very quick. 
 
He fine tuned the process over the years and took the design to HairUWear.  They were thrilled because it was a brand new "easy to install in a snap" technology built on a very lightweight "cap" type of system that has a lot of great advantages.
 
One of the other reasons he wanted to invent the cap system was because he found that a lot of women who bought the 10 piece POP systems would still go to the hairdresser to have them installed. 
 
The majority of women are NOT like you guys here and they either don't have time to really understand their options or they are just not into it.  So they would buy the POP human hair extensions in the 10 piece kits and they would take them to their hairdressers and pay to have them put in.
 
Ken felt that was crazy because he wanted consumers to have the freedom to easily and quickly put these pieces in at home.
 
So he took the soft half cap concept one step further and looked at making it into a system.  I know the HairUWear "hair designer" that worked with Ken and Jessica.  They wanted to offer both synth and human hair and they wanted to be the highest possible quality for the price.  They worked with the HUW designer very very closely to design the pieces from scratch.  They spent so many days and weeks on this project you can't believe.
 
They literally looked at hundreds and hundreds of hair examples, colors, styles until they agreed on the initial 5 offerings and the initial colors.  
 
In April they did a behind the scenes photo shoot with Ken and Jessica and Jessica's great dog Daisy (I want to steal her) and HairUWear was there with all the executives and the hair designer and they brought bags and bags and bags of hair.
 
Ken was partial to HairUWear because as a celebrity stylist he had worked with many many different companies and always went back to Great Lengths.  He liked the quality of their hair, their customer service and they would work with him on new ideas.
 
Consequently he and Jessica (and yes, she was involved every step of the way) signed for the new line with HairUWear (they also own Great Lengths).
 
The HairDo line is just the first phase.  There is a second line coming out.
 
The human hair is the absolutely highest quality they could find to offer at the best possible price considering all the factors involving the designs and other issues.  The synth is also the highest quality that they could offer for the price and what it is.
 
Trust me...Ken is very very very picky.  I mean he is a perfectionist and he and Jessica had 100% say over what went to market.  This took over 1 1/2 years to come to pass.
 
At the photo shoot in April in Hollywood I was allowed on set as the only media person.  I watched the models use the pieces and they all loved it. 
 
So for Ken's goals to offer the average woman the opportunity to have a foolproof system (and it literally snaps on in 5 minutes or less) that looks good, it meets what he was trying to do.
 
And yes, the price may be high compared to what you guys could do for yourself but considering that women used to buy POP human hair and then still have to pay a hairdresser, they can bypass that whole step.
 
The human hair pieces are gorgeous.  Very nice hair and I tried the synth and it is very nice compared to other synth that I have had.
 
But yes...bottom line...it is not for DIYers of the expertise you guys have.  It is for the girl next store that wants to wear these type of hair systems but doesn't want to spend time researching.
 
Since Ken and Jessica have their name on this product, they are very very concerned about how the product is sold and the customer care behind it.
 
The main reason that HB.com is carrying the product is very specifically because Ken asked me to.  Originally I was not going to take the product since I have never had an interest in selling hair of any kind through HB.com.
 
We are known for our hair accessories and that is my passion.  But he asked me personally as a favor to him and Jessica (who is also my friend) and I could not say no to him.
 
Ken and I have been through a lot of things together and like with any close friend, I would try to honor their requests.
 
I also carry Robert Hallowell's hair care line in my store because he is a dear friend as well.  The line is small and it has a very niche market but I keep it for him to help promote him.
 
So that is the whole story about HairDo and the whys and wherefores.
 
Hope that gives you all interesting "behind the scenes" insights.
 
By the way...I have a few photos that have never been released from that "private Jessica/Ken" shoot and once I get Ken's permission, I will be sharing them.
 
Tina Simpson was there at the private shoot and she is the nicest woman on the planet.  And yes, Jessica is really a doll.   She has done some very kind things for me and is a very sweet person.


Edited by Karen Shelton - October 17 2006 at 4:38pm
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Karen, thanks so much for telling this story! I love hearing about extensions and the stories behind them. It would be great to post this story in a magazine! People are really thrilled with hair extensions these days. The taboo is starting to fade.

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Hi Malibu,
 
Thank you for your kind words.
 
Actually, the "hair extension" story about Jessica & Ken will be in the November/December issue of 101 Celebrity Hairstyles on newstands in the next 2-3 weeks (Barnes & Noble).  There will be a little "insert" booklet that talks about hair extensions with regard to Ken and Jessica & how to snap them on and how to care for them. 
 
I am very excited about this project since it allowed me to share Ken's vision for empowering the average woman to wear her hair "as an accessory".
 
By the way, the Jessica hair is selling out quickly here at HB and already we are getting feedback that is glowing from people that never were willing to try add-ons or clip-ons before and are amazed at how easy they are.  Even some of our phone guys bought hair for their girlfriends which is just so sweet.  :-)
 
Our only problem now is that we have sold out of some of the most popular colors and it is hard to get more at this point. :-)
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Karen, thank you so much for the inside report!  That information is just as valuable to read as technical information and "how to"s. 

If people do decide to buy their clip-ins, they'll feel comfortable knowing that they were developed by someone who really put time and energy into it and wanted to create a quality product.  And, that the people behind the scenes are good people.

I signed up for their drawing for a free set of clip-ins a couple months ago, but I don't think I won.  Cry


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Hi Monsterita,
 
Not sure about the give-a-way...that was through HairUWear so I am not sure if you won but if it is still out there...I hope you do win.  :-)
 
Thanks for the feedback. 
 
Yes...it is a fascinating story.  I have so many about Ken that I have collected over the past years I need to put them all together sometime. 
 
One little tidbit that I tease him about....he often hangs up on me.  Not on purpose but often he is calling from planes, trains and automobiles going who knows how fast.  In fact, I used to sign my emails to him...Click Dial Tone....which became .....Click because he would talking to me and the phone would just go dead.
 
It is a running joke now.  He also calls me KS and I call him KP. He has nicknames for everyone including Jess. 
 
What a fun guy.  I am lucky to have him as my friend.  And his mom is a total doll.  I want her to adopt me.  :-)
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