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Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

I’m sure there is. I did not mean to imply ALL Indian hair is cuticle stripped and processed. I believe GL makes the claim their Indian hair is virgin. They refer to it as "Virgin Indian Temple Hair" I think. But I did try GL and the hair was nice to start off with and then went down hill quickly and I ended up throwing away this expensive hair after 3 months wear. I noticed it lost shine and became tangly after about a month and I was shampooing once a week with a sulfate free gentle shampoo so for me, it could very well just be a texture mismatch. That’s all I’m saying and sorry.
GL's only real claim on "Virgin Indian Temple Hair" is how the hair starts out.. All the literature on their site seems pretty upfront about the fact that they do proces the hair for color, and texture. GL isn't exactly sharing their process, but based on the latest reports apparently their processes are doing some level of damage to the hair which shortens it's lifespan.. However, all hair processed for color or texture isn't destined to become dry and tangly.. Just like chemically processed natural hair, I imagine it depends on the method used to process the hair.. Chemically processed hair isn't automatically cuticle stripped hair..

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Is it okay for me to answer that or I need to private you? I dont want drama lol.
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Krimsa, Do you wear the hand tied Russian hair from Gene?
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I’m sure there is. I did not mean to imply ALL Indian hair is cuticle stripped and processed. I believe GL makes the claim their Indian hair is virgin. They refer to it as "Virgin Indian Temple Hair" I think. But I did try GL and the hair was nice to start off with and then went down hill quickly and I ended up throwing away this expensive hair after 3 months wear. I noticed it lost shine and became tangly after about a month and I was shampooing once a week with a sulfate free gentle shampoo so for me, it could very well just be a texture mismatch. That’s all I’m saying and sorry.
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Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

Interesting. I think the Indian hair splits up so much because it’s normally processed and the cuticle layer stripped. I could be wrong but all I know is even the brand new Indian hair is no where near this texture.
Not all Indian hair is processed and stripped.. There are PLENTY of available options for unprocessed Indian hair..
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Interesting. I think the Indian hair splits up so much because it’s normally processed and the cuticle layer stripped. I could be wrong but all I know is even the brand new Indian hair is no where near this texture.

If I had slightly thicker, courser hair, I would probably love the Indian texture and wear it all the time. But I have that silky fine thin mop so I NEED the Russian. It blends the best. It’s not even a blend per se; it just looks like my hair disappears into it. I’m thrilled and never got that with Indian or Asian hair.

I’m guessing this is real Russian hair because yes, when I look at it, the top is darker and the ends a little redder. Not much but you can see it. Even if it wasn’t Russian, I would say tell me what this hair is and I will never buy anything else lol.
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Hi Malibu,
When I buy hair for wefts I always order a bit longer than what I will need. As soon as I am finished making the weft I trim 2 inches off. I don't know why split ends don't happen for me. I always suggest the client DOES NOT trim her own hair. That way it blends better into the weft with no straight across cut line in the hair. Maybe my clients have split end problems, and just don't tell me? I don't know....
Although, Indian hair has a BIG problem with split ends. Let me paraphrase before anyone lets the attack dogs out on me. Not every single pony tail from India has split ends, just most of them, sorry, it's true.
If you are not sure about the quality of  hair you have.......Let me paraphrase, I am sure what you have is wonderful 100% virgin Russian European hair! This tip is not about any ones quality of hair. All the Russian hair I've seen, including Genes, has been absolutely beautiful, and obviously Russian hair.
To find out for sure if you have Russian hair....Bleach a strip of hair from roots to ends. Russian hair will always be darker at the roots lighter on the ends, and Indian hair will always be lighter at the roots darker at the ends. I've never done this test with processed hair so I'm not sure if it will work, but I think it probably won't matter. Another difference in hair....occasionally when bleaching Indian hair it will get really hot for a while. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does it's always the Indian hair.
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Originally posted by mokipono mokipono wrote:

Personally, I have never had a problem with split ends.
Really? what's your secret?Smile

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yeah, very true. I think how the Russian works at least where i bought it from is they have certain virgin colors ranging from dark brown up to virgin blonde and also virgin auburn. So its only 5 base colors that are natural. If you want a paler blonde than what they have virgin, they take that blonde and then lighten it and change it to what you want.
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The color has a lot to do with longevity. If it has been bleached of course it's not going to last as long as virgin hair. Virgin actual hand tied wefts can last up to 2 years, sometimes more...It depends if the hair was hand tied correctly, and taken care of properly.  Blonde colors usually last about a year, sometimes more, depending if the hair was lightened cautiously, and not over doing the bleach. Personally, I have never had a problem with split ends.
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Right. I have been using a leave in on the ends and that seems to keep them nice but eventually they might start getting ragged.
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I think until it starts getting split ends and you've trimmed it as much as you wanted to, is when you would need to replace it. But that goes for any virgin hair.

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Those of you currently wearing the Russian hair or those that have worn it in the past I am wondering what is the record on length of time you were able to go before needing new hair. I mean needing new hair, not wanting new hair.

I ask because this hair seems so healthy it would go on indefinitely and never need replacing. Im sure ALL extension hair has its limits especially if you are doing heavy duty coloring or a lot of heat styling etc...but what is the longest you have gone not needing to replace the Russian?
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