The “Dead Concepts List” is a partial view. It has a counter-part in the “Can’t Deny This List” which includes unconsciousness+physical destruction (death), gravity, sun = hot burning orb…you get the idea.
O, I totally feel your pain regards height. My date-friend is 6ft 3” which is a foot taller than me. I couldn’t gaze into his eyes unless I stood on a box or we were in semi-prone position. Bang goes the possibility of spontaneous kisses. Limitation indeed.
I think mindless belief has it’s place. I have to get into that place (i.e temporarily accept certain premises) in order to finish a religious text. Can’t thoroughly critique and deeply understand a text simultaneously. Have to relate as a believer and then detach and disassociate.
I went under the knife a while back. Had incredible hallucinations coming out of general anaesthesia. Likewise when I fast. And then there are sleeping dreams. They all seemed real at the time. I “see” these images and emotionally responded to them. Does that make them real?
IPUs are fun, but you’re only setting yourself up for failure. Unless and until Reality unfolds, destroying “belief” by the weight of Itself, I’m keeping an open and fluid mind. Do we all need illusion?….I guess we are a mass of illusions, even facts can be revealed as illusions. Point: a canine eye can naturally percieve more colours than a human eye. So how many colours in the rainbow?
As usual, it’s great kicking ideas around with you Tina . Thanks for your encouragement and for wishing me luck on the date. I don’t think of it as a conquest, so no need to gain any advantage and no possibility of failure. Just hoping for mutual enjoyment whatever form that may take. (Will have to save the bdsm for later down the line - if there is a later .)
.....now for my wry comments on your wry comments.
Inevitable-..... Death is inevitable. We will all die. -( are paying taxes inevitable?.... hmmm...)-
Limitation- I am 5 ft. 1 inch tall. I am 27 yrs. old. I don't ever think I will grow to be a 6 ft. 7 inch lady basketball or volleyball player like Gabreilla Reese. _(Darn!!!)-
Unconditional love- It depends how lonely or H o r n y I am!
Imaginary Pink Unicorn/False Gods- .....Actually I'm a natural sceptic, I need all of the illusions and delusions I can get!!!. I sometimes am a little envious of the simple minded folk,-(idiots?)-, that can almost "mindlessly" believe in this or that religion or what have you,-( false or otherwise)-. As my mother used to sarcastically call them, "lovely peasants"!..... -( this from an impoverished, wild, sometimes crazy, sometimes superstitious, sometimes sexually promiscuous, sometimes hard drinkin, weed smokin, single mother, who was convinced that her "trashy" self was better than the rest of the "trashy" people in our neighborhood!!!. We all need a few illusions.
Hair cutting- Well as you know Uzma I now wear my hair super short but I have had it super long too and in-between lengths as well. I like it all. I liked each style when I was wearing it, including now. ..... But since long haired women can be very sexy, I say knock yourself out girl growing your hair super long. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there wantin' to snuggle with and kiss a pretty long haired lass such as yourself doll !!!
Oh yes... and that finally brings us to Blissfully lost cause. Most of the best writers are blissfully lost causes Uzma. Not to mention that blissfully lost causes can be a whole lot of fun sometimes!!!.
I say go to it "naturegirl", be a "wild child" darling !
Oh yes..... Good luck on your HOT date, and remember if all else fails, .....the nibble on the ear Uzma!!! Women DO have that advantage, we can get always get our way and our jollies!!! -( yes we can be the boss lady, the queen of the castle, the princess of sensuality!!! Tee hee!!!)-
Bye for now! Love, Tina
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>>>>>jenifer out of curiousity how often do you trim your hair and how long is it?
Well, I just measured it. In the back, it's just a hair above 23 inches. Not terribly long (especially compared with many here!), but I'm generally happy with the length, though I'll let it get as long as it can before it becomes too thin on the ends.
I trim the ends myself and don't really have a set timeframe for trims, but I think the last time I trimmed it was in February. It's still looking good, but probably in July (since I'll be outside a lot more and may possibly wash my hair more often) or maybe even the end of June, I'll trim a little bit.
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I am interpreting the word “unconditional” as indiscriminate on the part of the one who is giving unconditional love. Unconditional in respect of kinship, appearance, personality traits, dependency, desire on the part of either party, etc.
Is that really the case?
If I were to replace the 4 in your home with any random other 4, would these also receive it? If yes, than that would truly be unconditional.
Perhaps I am mis-reading your meaning or vice versa. Sometimes “unconditional love” is interpreted as deep, over-flowing love. I trust afore-mentioned 4 are the lucky recipients of the latter.
Paging Karen Shelton!! We need a Philosophical Discussions board!!!
Thanks for being so kind and sweet. And thanks for your good wishes, O Former Queen of First Dates Can’t figure out why I am so nervous. I have played serious chess with this guy for hours, in jeans & Ts. Have sworn at his cheat-moves and peeked venom from behind wild, messy hair, without a care. Since this date thing, I’m a wreck. Hate being self-conscious like this. Must get my head together.
Anyway, I think I’m going to forget the first updo and just go with that second looser style. It’s achievable and I can leave it alone for the rest of the night.
The river is wonderful. It is a companion of 30 years standing and I can vouch for it being a good listener. Even if the date crashes, I will enjoy the embankment stroll.
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Nor do I wish to kick-start a theo debate, but to clarify……
Imaginary: because each individual develops their own concept, either static or work-in-progress. Sometimes it has a definite form in the imaginative &/or the material world (hence I didn’t use “invisible”)– sometimes it’s just an abstract idea (the intellectuals would have you believe this is the superior model). Most times it is based on an external implant/indoctrination. If you don’t “kill” the IPU, it will be the end of you.
If I have any addiction, it is to this cycle: Create IPU, forget it is your creation, live life, try matching reality of life with reality of IPU, realize IPU is faulty, remember I created it and therefore it is a manufacturing error, dis-mantle IPU. Void. Lonely here. Create IPU......
Must remember not to be so damned creative in future.
As for the limitless/Absolute…..I give up. I’m totally clueless from my current vantage point in existence.
Another discarded concept/belief: Threads that stay on-topic Sorry dave.
Cheers to you both (& no offence intended to anyone re IPUs )
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yay, one point for uzi ! she knows 5 important things that are nothing more than (*6th*) calf-poop. (the other important one is limitless/absolute anything)
Although mentionning the IPU may re-enflame theological debates that belong on places like iidb.org :P
.... where I come from, the I means Invisible thus already creating a lie in itself though. (pink != invisible except in png files and gif's that define that pink as being invisible.)
I hate all of the following and lots more : Fundamentalists, racists, sexists, fascists, ageists (people saying seniors = senile , kids = stupid , 18 = immature or a combo of them), and bigots for causes yet to receive their own designation.
I love that hairstyle in the picture on the right hand side. Very nice. I am sure you will radiate beauty regardless of the style you choose.
I wish you a wonderful, fun and comfortable date. I have spent a greater part of the last seven years going on them, and I certainly understand the myriad of feelings involved.
A well-known river has also played a large part in my current romance. The mystery of the river is perfect for an after-dinner stroll.
Lots of love to you--please let us know how it goes.
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Jennifer - I have done my homework on split-ends and although I will do my utmost to prevent them, if/when they occur, we will all co-exist peacefully.
BTW, that word....inevitably...reminds me of Agent Smith in the Matrix and his "it is the sound of inevitability, Mr Anderson".
Some concepts, and therefore beliefs I have discarded: - Inevitable - Limitation - Unconditional love - Imaginary Pink Unicorn (false-gods/idols) - Hair cutting
Appreciate your advice but I am a blissfully lost cause .
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jenifer out of curiousity how often do you trim your hair and how long is it? i go get my ends trimmed about 8 weeks. last time she trim 1/8 off. lately i've been stretching my trims to about 10 weeks.
>>>>>jenifer uzma has said she doesn't have any split ends right now. more than i can say for myself i say if it isn't broken why fix it. you know what i mean?
I can't argue with what you say! However, if you'll reread my message, it is inevitable that split ends will occur during all of our lifetimes. If she never cuts her hair for the rest of her life and refuses to consider it, it is guaranteed her hair will not look as it does now.
My comments were for the future, not what's happening in the present. And, of course there are always split ends that we don't see, but the healthier the hair, the more infrequent the trims need to be to keep it that way! I've heard some stylists say that 6-8 week trims are mandatory for everyone, and I completely disagree with that.
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Uzma, I just skimmed those threads. Talk about a manipulating mother! It sounds like your mother has an awfully lot of unresolved issues.
However, in my humble opinion, by refusing to ever trim your hair, you're going right back to that unfeminine look that you grew up despising. Part of feminine long hair is its health, and no matter how hard you try, you are guaranteed to have split ends. It's kind of like you're going to extremes, just like what was taught to you growing up. There really is a happy medium!
Be well.
jenifer uzma has said she doesn't have any split ends right now. more than i can say for myself i say if it isn't broken why fix it. you know what i mean?
Uzma, I just skimmed those threads. Talk about a manipulating mother! It sounds like your mother has an awfully lot of unresolved issues.
However, in my humble opinion, by refusing to ever trim your hair, you're going right back to that unfeminine look that you grew up despising. Part of feminine long hair is its health, and no matter how hard you try, you are guaranteed to have split ends. It's kind of like you're going to extremes, just like what was taught to you growing up. There really is a happy medium!
Be well.
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ROTFLOL – I’m keeping my hands (and teeth) off him during the first date!!! The only thing that will be nibbled are the hors d’ouvres. Thanks for the advice about men – I’m out of practice. Wouldn’t want to manipulate or label him, though – I have too much admiration and respect for him. I hope we can laugh together and relax with each other. A little romantic friendship would be cool right now. Cheers, Tina.
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That is a long, sad story that I have already talked about in other threads. The “Un-cut Hair” and "Hair criticism hell" threads on the Announcement’s board contains some of it, and a couple of threads on this board. The details are kind of painful and this is a happy time for me, so please excuse me if I don’t care to re-visit the past, here and now.
Take care
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Uzma, so your opinions are polar opposite of him? Political differences and so forth? He might end up debating you? Ugh!
If you nibble on his ear a little he won't even care was his opinions are.-( he might even forget what his opinions are, which is usually good)-.That's the advantage women have. It is really very easy for a woman to change a guy's politics or at least neutralize his opinions. Men really are so easy to manipulate.-( at least when he is with us anyway)-.
Men on a certain level are all the same. Remember if his opinions become to difficult to take -( that is too wrong!)-..... .....You DO have the advantage ! .
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Wise words I will definitely hold to my heart on the night. Thank you.
Monica I can’t use sticks yet – my hair is not long enough. Will try and practice a French Twist. He is incredibly intelligent and “together” – frighteningly so – and so far all our opinions are at polar extremes, which is intruiging. Maybe he asked me out because he wanted some heavy debates LOL. Thanks for your kind words.
Papillion_purple Ooo yes. That sounds just like what I’m trying to achieve. Thx.
Tina and Monica My friend lives near Holland Park which is just a short walk from the Thames. So, although it sounds romantic, it is actually very practical. And yes, he made the first move – brave guy .
Jennifer I have been posting on this board since last August. I notice you had read and posted on one of my October 2002 threads the other day, so I guess it would seem like my hair is growing rapidly. I wish it were so (sigh).
Dave Yes, I’m looking for a new-to-me style idea. Well put. Good idea about updo and then letting it free. I would like some “structure” to the freed hair, though. Do either of these styles strike you as being particularly beautiful (subjective, I know)…?
This for the formal dinner. The bun is a delicate, elegant composition and the sweeping front strand makes it softer around the face. And a little flirty too.
Hmmmm…….could I easily change from the first to the second between dessert and coffee?…maybe a little trip to the ladies room on the night…and a lot of practice over the next few days!
Thanks to you all for your suggestions and support. You are the best!!!
How about a half up-half down style? It would look really romantic to have some hair brushing your shoulders since you'd be wearing a bodice, but still fashionable for the nice French restaurant with the portion of hair that is put up. Plus, you could secure it with a really nice hair clip to match your jewelry. Good luck!
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