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    Posted: June 14 2004 at 3:20am
Hello, everyone. I'm having a bit of a hair dilemma here that I was hoping to get some advice on.

My hair is currently just barely past shoulder-length, and I'm trying to grow it out. The problem is that since I don't like the way my hair looks down right now, and don't have much time in the mornings to get ready, I always wear it up (in a bun, or with hairpins, etc.).

Is constantly wearing it up going to cause excess breakage/damage to my hair? What are the best ways to minimize it?
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I´m no expert, but it seems to me that if you don´t pull your hair heavily from the scalp, keeping it away from your shoulders should rather protect your hair during the growing out fase. I practically always wear mine up, and I haven´t noticed any damage from *that*. And wearing it up a lot usually means you can go easier on the whole washing process, which probably is a lot more damaging.
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I was just thinking about this a few hours ago when I was pulling my hair up into the pony it would hang in all day. I live in FL, so it is a survival tactic to pull the hair off of the body. You know, to prevent from dying of heat stroke!

Here's my take on this. I pull may hair into the sam spot pretty much every time I pull it up, so there is really only one major area of my hair that is being pressed on by the band - one stress point. This stress point is about 1/2 inch in width. Well, hair grows 1/2 inch or so per month, so i figure I am only putting stress on that point for 1 month...then it moves down and I am on to the next 1/2 inch of virgin hair!

maybe that's why my hair looks smoother above the pony....hmmm.

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I think if you don't pull it "up" too tightly, you should be all right. I wear my hair up a lot and it's not damaged as a result.

Be especially careful with ponytail holders. Make sure they're soft and covered. Don't use regular rubber bands, nor those old fashioned ponytail holders with the metal on them--your hair can get stuck in there and rip (mine always did).
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Welcome Johlis! Thanks for posting your question.

A few additional thoughts... vary your do's. Braid, then bun, then pony, and so on. Also, pin or secure at different spots so the same spot doesn't always receive the stress of the hair-holding accessory.
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I´ve noticed some long haired people don´t give up the rubberband when they do the bun, even when the hair is long enough to bun without first doing a ponytail. Really, it takes less and less to secure the bun as the hair gets longer, even if it´s heavy and shiny and slippery like mine. It´s all about technique and the less hairpins and such you need, the less stress you´ll put on your hair.
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Just another tip---instead of using a rubber band or elastic, use a cloth-covered "scrunchie" to hold the pony tail before arranging it into a bun. It will pump up the size of the bun and you will have some extra places to tuck hair in while at the same time using fewer pins.
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I agree, scrunchies are GREAT for making buns. My hair is pretty thick, and I can do a nice high bun with only two scrunchies, eliminating pins completely!
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Quote y hair is pretty thick, and I can do a nice high bun with only two scrunchies, eliminating pins completely!
Elissa, can you briefly describe how you do this? (Not having the benefit of sisters growing up, I am catching up on long hair styling techniques).
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1. I make a ponytail with a scrunchie, wrapping the scrunchie twice. This can be done low at the neck (for a chignon-type bun), at the middle of the back of the head or on top of the head for the highest bun.

2. Then I take the ponytail and wrap it around the scrunchie, making it into a circle or "O" flat against my head (you may have to do this 2 or 3 times or more depending on the length and thickness of your hair. Twice works best for me).

3. Tuck ends under the circle and secure with the 2nd scrunchie, again you may need to wrap the scrunchie 2 or 3 times to keep the bun from falling apart.

For any shorter pieces that fall out, you can either encourage them to curl or wave, or secure them with flat clips.

It's hard to write instructions--I hope I've conveyed this ok. It's really really easy!
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Elissa, thanks! Those are the clearest bun instructions I've ever read. Seriously. Now I just have to get some scrunchies .
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I know i'm not very popular here, but I do have a legitimate question about this thread...

Do they make scrunchies for guys? My wife used to use them before she cut hers short, and the ones she used don't seem like they'd look right for a man.

Again, I'm not being sarcastic or sexist. Would a guy just use a color appropriate for a man?

Curious observer this time.

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YES!!! Do whatever it takes to get past the difficult stages. I LOVE updos! Good luck! Bob
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Originally posted by arch94 arch94 wrote:

Do they make scrunchies for guys? My wife used to use them before she cut hers short, and the ones she used don't seem like they'd look right for a man.


Not only guys shy away from pink scrunchies. I would never use any accessory that was not brown, black or made of silver, copper or dark wood in my hair. There are lots of cool, elegant stuff out there that does not look "girly" and would suit a man just fine, one just has to look for it. It´s what I shop for when I travel.

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Quote o they make scrunchies for guys?
Hair accessories have no gender. Many of them are designed to appeal to female tastes but this is going to change as male long hair becomes more common.
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I prefer them to be plain and black or navy myself.
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The technical (?) term for the hair-holding device I use at the base of my ponytail/braid is a terrycloth-covered elastic. I also use "Ouchless" No Metal Clasps from Goody to tie off the end of my braid.

I also have a Native-American inspired ponytail hair tie which is decidedly masculine-looking.
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Does anyone know how to tie up long hair in a bun without using any hair ties, pins etc? I've seen people and some celebrities do it and i've wanted to as it saves me the trouble of having to search for a hair tie every morning.
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I have only seen that done once, by an actress with curly, whiteblond and, I think, rather thin hair. It looked wonderful, I think she just did a knot with it. Sooo cool!

It wouldn´t work for me, my hair is too heavy and slippery.

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My hair is just past classic length, and I am able to pull it up without pins or "scrunchies". It is rather thin though, compared to many people's hair, and a bit wavy.

I pull my hair back as though I am going to make a pony tail, then I twist the hair a little and turn it into a bun, then wrap the ends under the bun (does that make sense?) A lady from India showed me how to do it years ago and I am forever grateful to her.
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