QuoteReplyTopic: to Karen and other participants Posted: January 12 2000 at 2:54am
> Heres to you Diane!> As I sit reading your post of recent> I have realized that Diane is good and decent.> A heart that is pure and understanding> One that I had been misunderstanding.> Your love for long hair is shared by us all> Your heart felt stance is strong and tall.> Never change that which you are made of,> For its given by God and is the right stuff.> So forgive this Marvin, a silly Martian> my rhetoric and all my dissertation.> I'll steer my space ship on a new charted sequence,> And head for that morning star, called VENUS!> Take Care DianeWhat a great attitude!! I don't want to see Diane leave the board. We are all individuals. If you notice, the board is called Hair Talk.. not cut, color and style advisory.. The way I see it, if you don't like what's going on in a thread, don't read it. I figure Jeff or Karen will take care of the wild posters and put any of us back in our place. I must confess I didn't read many of the posts that brought all this about. But I have read many of Diane's posts here and on the TLHS. I think she is sincere in her love of long hair. We all learn by our mistakes hopefully.. Best of regards.. Cher~
> A lot of the misunderstanding on this board about my> messages were because you don't know me. You might> have been shock if you actually met me because I am> probably the opposite of some of your thoughts.Diane,This may sound harsh, but I really don't mean it to... so please take it with a tone of as much gentleness and kindness as can be offered over a keyboard.I've heard the argument of "I'm really different if you actually meet me" from many, many people on the net, and I don't buy it. At least not entirely.I agree that in real life we have a great many more cues and clues to pick up on in our interactions, and thus our coversations are richer and MUCH less prone to misunderstanding. However there are cues and clues in online communication, you just need some time and experience to learn how to read them. (How long does it take children to learn to communicate effectively in real life? Such cues can be difficult.) It is certainly possible to "be yourself" in cyberspace. If people are misunderstanding you, then maybe you should ask yourself if you're expressing yourself clearly. And if you are (and I think you certainly have been) then next thing to examine is whether or not it's appropriate for the forum in which you're participating.For instance if a lady walked up to you in the supermarket and told you you have lovely hair and asked what kind of shampoo you used you'd probably have a short light chat with her about hair care and leave it at that. You probably wouldn't have an in-depth discussion about the social implications of your hair. But if a good friend asks you your opinion about getting bangs and layers you might well bring up your opinions about the what hair means in society and culture. You probably wouldn't even think twice about the appropriateness of these conversations because you have a good read on the setting and your able to judge the level of conversational intimacy that's appropriate.Why am I writing all this? Because I'd really hate to see you give up on this board completely. I think that many of the topics you post about have been thought provoking and interesting... even if I often don't agree with you. If you are looking for a forum to express ideas and concepts beyond the reach of this board why don't you make your own webpage or start a board or e-mail list of your own. There's a whole range of free services that can help you do that and if you want advice on how to do it, just e-mail me privately and I'd be happy to help.Personally, I try and be as honest and true to who I am in online interaction as in real life. People who I've known for years are never surprised by the timbre and tone of my e-mail and vice versa. I don't talk about my hair on a mailing list with a bunch of my friends chatting about who's doing what on friday night... there it would be inappriate, here it's welcome.-jennifer j
Heres to you Diane!As I sit reading your post of recentI have realized that Diane is good and decent.A heart that is pure and understandingOne that I had been misunderstanding.Your love for long hair is shared by us allYour heart felt stance is strong and tall.Never change that which you are made of,For its given by God and is the right stuff.So forgive this Marvin, a silly Martianmy rhetoric and all my dissertation.I'll steer my space ship on a new charted sequence,And head for that morning star, called VENUS!Take Care Diane
>Dear Diane,I have to say that I am very surprised that you decided not to post anymore. Sorry that you gave up the fight! You say that you are a creative, expressive person. I agree, but I also think that an artist needs to have a lot of guts, drive and ambition.From reading so many of your postings, I always felt that you were searching for something. As a lover of hair, and of long hair in particular, I thought that you went overboard. I think that's what your last message reflects. Wrong church, wrong pew.Hope that you find what you are looking for in every area of your life....Jade21
This evening I recieved an email asking me to read the posts. My friend felt I needed to. I guess it was very important to my friend and as friend I felt it wouldn't torture me if I did for that person only. I am glad I did because some things need to be said.I believe that Karen and Jeff has put in their whole heart in this stie and for this reason I feel that I need to post this last message. I truely understand the amount of time , energy etc that you both put in. I don't want this to be left the way it was so please understand everyone that is concerned about all this that I am trying very hard to put across my message. Karen and Jeff I am sincere when I say I understand your effects as I am preparing for a web site but it won't be about hair. So I am not advertising.I was very wrong with some comments and also some of my other comments weren't really understood. which really hurt me because in everyday life I am well repected and liked.So I found out on this site that I seem to be a terrible email poster . I do much better in an exclusive type of site or in life when people can hear my voice , hear me laugh and I can study their eyes. A lot of the misunderstanding on this board about my messages were because you don't know me. You might have been shock if you actually met me because I am probably the opposite of some of your thoughts. I am actually a nice person that is people-oriented. I am told that all the time and I wrote a test today and it shown up that I am people-oriented.I am not a shallow human being.. I am very much a human being that understand emotions, lifes and is always learning. That appreciate seniors for their wisdom and I live life to the fullness.My favorite story is called the Gift of the Magi and not long ago I posted something about that story on the long hair site.To Steven C. I don't want you to go on in life thinking that I was pissed off with you. I was frustrated because you seen to think I am so shallow and I am not. I think we had this Mars , Venus thing going on between us.I do think it is so great that you write poems about your wife. More men should be romantic that way.This site is a very nice site for the information that it gives and I am not knocking the site . I am trying very hard with my words so please please for some of you try to hear my words.I realiized for a while that I don't really belong here not becuase of the site but because I don't have a need to discuss color, shampoos etc. I have a greater need for a site that talks about justice, society etc. We all are diffirent.I was touched yesterday as somone emailed and said that he really likes my posting and he will miss me.I get mail like that everyday. There was one day I had 30 messages all saying about the same thing.I am a marketing person and that tells me that there is a need for site that discusses things and life issues. Who knows maybe I am a person that should start something like that. Maybe you STeven C and others should start a site that welcome all kinds of topic like poems . I would love to see someone create a site like that. A site that one can post poems, music, topics about books, fashion etc.I felt frustrated because I am very creative and I wanted to express the beauty of long hair. I didn't want to discuss shampoo or advice. I wanted to be expressive because I have a passion for long hair.To everyone that enjoys this site I am sorry for my mistake. I should have realized that I needed to create or go somewhere else as there is no room for someone like me that wants to be very expressive. I have an artistic side to my nature.Thank you for your time and I am really not coming back. Maybe one day Karen and Jeff might expand and have this room and I would come back but as it sits I don';t have a need. I am not saying anything about this site. I am just being honest by saying I don't have a need.
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