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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 7:18am
Originally posted by Synne Synne wrote:

Originally posted by FabulousHairExt FabulousHairExt wrote:

okay your in! you passed the "six months test"

(what, i think i'm funny)

What a tricky girl . I was smiling when I saw your question.

And Kelina, welcome. I“ll be looking forward to learn from your posts .

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Thanks Synne for welcoming me, I will answer any and all concerns that you have.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 8:36am

Hello Ladies,

I know the six month comments where meant for me. FYI I have been in this business for close to 20 years and have performed fusion extention services for close to 10. I no longer advertise on any media because there is a two month wait to get on my book complete with a waiting list and believe it or not I no longer offer basic services, I send my clients to a local stylist after they receive my fusion service that way we all win. I also have several successful students across the country whom I am very proud of. There is no need to question my credentials just ask. This is a serious business and I don't have time for games. My goal is to help educate the clients as well as newbies, I have done a ton of corrective work and I hope to cut those numbers through knowledge.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 10:55am
What kind of fusion do you use?
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Originally posted by metalgirl metalgirl wrote:

What kind of fusion do you use?

 

I use a keritin protein based fusion bond because not only can you perform all of your basic haircare needs :color, relax, perm, moisturize with the system in place but removal is easy and not damaging..I also pre-tipp my hair by hand to ensure each hair strand is embedded in the bond and that prevents shedding. I also hate those one size fit all systems....I am able to cut my bonds custom to each client.

I never use polywax....That stuff can ripp the hair out during the removal process

Thank You for your response

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 1:43pm
Isn't the proten what GL usees?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 2:01pm

Originally posted by PaulaJayne1 PaulaJayne1 wrote:

Isn't the proten what GL usees?

Your right it is keritin based ....They have a great product but that is not what I use....I have colleaugues that use their system and and every now and then they shed. I like to pretipp the hair that I use....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 4:44pm

Valencia,

Just wanted to say that I have seen your thread on the DC/Maryland website, and have seen your website as well.. You really do beautiful work.. I found Remy Hair Today through you.. As soon as I get my next paycheck, I will be purchasing hair from Camille.. So thanks for the endorsement.. Makes me feel better about a purchase when I see a stylist repping the product..

Originally posted by FabulousHairExt FabulousHairExt wrote:

Kelina, will your fusion last 6 months?

Regarding the "6 month" post.. There have been a few recent posts on this forum regarding the topic of whether or not you can wear extensions (strand by strand, sew-in, etc) for 6 months. (As you know Great Lengths and other similar big name fusion systems claim that their extensions will last 6 months..) I am pretty sure that Fabulous was just being facetious.. After reading through some of the past postings here, it appears that every few weeks/months a new person posts a claim that their extensions will last 6 months, and they try like hell to defend why they think it's true..  ("Because my stylist told me it's true..")

Good to see you here..



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 7:22pm

THANK YOU Divavocals,

And let me take this time out to say I am sorry, you read my forum so you know how I feel about this business. I am actually thrilled that I was wrong and took it the wrong way. This is what I am trying to stop, untrue information and instructions, and those who lie to the client to line their pockets. They don't see what we see because they ripp the clients hair out and either blame the client or don't return their phone calls which forces the client to come to us for help. For the most part I can fix the damage but every now and then I can't and that breaks my heart first and then anger me. This is what motivated me to start my forum. To the other ladies, PLEASE keep fighting the good fight I now understand and respect your screening process and now I'm smiling.

Valencia



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 8:34pm

Oh it's not just the stylists who push those false claims.. Sometimes it's the unsuspecting clients too.. I've been doing some browsing of previous posts on this forum, and I'm still AMAZED at how much mis-information people are given when they have spent their hard earned money on extensions.. The thing that kills me is that even when they come here and find out (from these very knowledgable ladies) what the real deal is and that their stylist has misrepresented the truth, they still cling to the hope that the ladies here are wrong and the stylist was right.. So as for me.. I'll keep on preaching the truth (as I have learned it.. sometimes the hard way..)

I spent a lot of time reading your DC/Maryland thread, and although you said you weren't going to post here on this forum, I hope you will change your mind and bless this forum with your knowledge as well..

Glad I could clear up the misunderstanding..

BTW.. I can't seem to find the bookmark for the DC/Maryland thread.. can you post it here? Maybe some of the ladies here will want to drop in as well.. (You can never have too many resources for keeping up with this whole hair thang! LOL)

Crystal



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2006 at 11:25pm

So hairbyvalencia, which brand of fusion do you use?  Mega, Hair Dreams, Monkey Barz, Balmain, Socap,....?

I never had luck with fusion.  I'd always get tons of shedding.  So if you know which manufacturer makes the better product, I'd love to hear it.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 1:17am

Divavocals,

You got it, I will post on this thread as often as I can, I'm sold because of you....and I will post my link as soon as I get the chance....

 

Metalgirl, let me take the time out to tell you that you are well on your way, you have tried them all and refused to settle. You remind me of myself when I was young and ambitious. I LOVE THAT!! I tell my clients, I lost hair so they didn't have to.

You are right they all shed, and it takes a stylist that care to admit that, I have been there so many times. This is why I pre-tipp my hair by hand. I don't publish my distributer's information because I don't want to be responsible for imposters screwing up our clients hair. As a business woman I am sure you understand that information should not be published for all to see.

Thank You for your response

Valencia



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 1:21pm

Thanks for the info.  That's why I never got into fusion, it sheds too darn much, and that's unacceptable to me.

I use primarily www.markbarrington.com shrink links.  The  patented perma plugs never shed at all, doesn't melt under heat so it stays in tact to use over and over again.

Also I've been using a lot of silicone inserted microrings and I am loving those as well.

I certainly am ambitious, but as for being young....does 35 count as young?  I've been in the hair business for 15 years, primarily doing extensions and color.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 3:38pm

So if you use the shrink links you pretip your own hair with the LG? Or do you order your hair?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 10:58pm
Originally posted by hairbyvalencia hairbyvalencia wrote:

Divavocals,

You got it, I will post on this thread as often as I can, I'm sold because of you....and I will post my link as soon as I get the chance....

 Yeah!! I am looking forward to reading more from you here..

(Maybe I have a career in sales after all.. )

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2006 at 11:07pm

Originally posted by metalgirl metalgirl wrote:

...but as for being young....does 35 count as young? ...

Yes yes yes and HELL yes..

Personally, I just celebrated my TWELFTH 30th birthday..



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 11:25am

Shiry-

When I use shrink links, I never use hair that's pretipped with LG.  I order the hair from Mark Barrington, and they make the tip on the hair.  The tip is none other like you've even seen before.  It's a small square tip that is coated with plastic, so it doesn't melt under the heat of the fusion wand and therefore the hair doesn't shed much at all.  For a 'hot' application, it's really the way to go.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 12:05pm

Ladies, the link to my forum thread is below per request. 14 pages of questions, answers, HORROR STORIES, testemonials, and even a few pictures. I am very proud of it....BUT I need to say if you are not convinced that misinformation is out there after reading the post, you are in trouble. I have an ablum of bad fusion pictures in my online gallery that are very scary, one client had to have her head shaven. I want to thank those brave ladies for sharing their stories and pictures with me giving me a tool to help others or should I say those who want to be helped. Also keep in mind that every certified stylist isn't a fusion specialist. Alot of these stylist learned by watching DVD's and mimic what they see, that is so dangerous hands on training is best dvd's don't come close to proper training....

http://www.dcmessageboards.com/index.php?showtopic=1414& st=0

I hope this helps

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2006 at 12:12pm
Originally posted by hairbyvalencia hairbyvalencia wrote:

 Alot of these stylist learned by watching DVD's and mimic what they see, that is so dangerous hands on training is best dvd's don't come close to proper training....

 

Valencia 

 

I am so glad to hear u say that, i feel so strongly about that as well. I too repair alot of work from unqualified people. It absolutley disgusts me the work i have seen and the horror stories i have come across.

Hands on traing no matter what method is the only way to learn and prove you are a true professional. Along with alot of practicing on models and doll heads. Glad to have you here with us Valencia!

 

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Originally posted by metalgirl metalgirl wrote:

Thanks for the info.  That's why I never got into fusion, it sheds too darn much, and that's unacceptable to me.

I use primarily www.markbarrington.com shrink links.  The  patented perma plugs never shed at all, doesn't melt under heat so it stays in tact to use over and over again.

Also I've been using a lot of silicone inserted microrings and I am loving those as well.

I certainly am ambitious, but as for being young....does 35 count as young?  I've been in the hair business for 15 years, primarily doing extensions and color.

Shrink Links are great for caucasian hair but not African American hair. We need oil and moisture and the Shrink Links can't handle most oils, they slip within 2-3 days after application. I had to find a product comparable to both hair types because I service both. I'm sure you noticed I don't name the products I use, that is because I don't want to encourage non-qualified people to attempt this process at home and I refuse to supply the tools. I know alot of companies only sell to certified stylist (but there is always e-bay) and we know alot of stylist are not qualified. I purchase the fusion bonds and pre-tipp the hair by hand, that way I can cut the the bond before application according to the client needs. I hate those one size fit all methods I like to customize. I also have a pre-treat system for the hair I use before I pre-tipp the hair so I have very little shedding.

I hope this helps, Thank You for your response

Valencia  



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Quote I'm sure you noticed I don't name the products I use, that is because I don't want to encourage non-qualified people to attempt this process at home and I refuse to supply the tools.  

 

Ok...maybe Im off base here...and maybe I shouldnt feel offended. But I have to state my opinion.

This is PRIMARILY a DIY forum here, and we come here to share our research and help each other out. I have been a DIYer for many years and willingly share my research, my experiments, my trials and errors and my successes, for others to benefit from.

I respect all of the professionials here for their education and experience. But those kind of comments in this public forum, seem rather offensive to me.

So you come here and learn from our information and thats fine too....but please share a little in return and keep some of those comments to yourself, remember this is a forum that is mostly DIYers who WILLINGLY share there info and findings. What would be the point of this forum if nobody wanted to share the information...and why would anybody even be here!



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