I agree Kristie
I want to know too! I'm really interested in this, it fasinates me.
If Bohyme or any other company wants to be vague then so be it. I'm
sure they worked hard, we all do... that's really not the issue.
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I remember that when the business of extensions started to be famous in France, a few years ago, the salons that were doing extensions (very $$$) had to explain where the hair was from, with little brochures and pictures of the indian women etc.
Because one of the first questions that comes to your mnd when you start being interested in hair extensions is "where is it from?"
and it's only normal curiosity.
And I do feel like there is an ethical question under all this, I would like to be reassured and be sure that no woman has been exploited or badbly treated to allow us to wear beautiful hair.
To get back to the 'business' perspective, it's understandable that the Bohyme representatives don't want to talk too much about the origins of the hair and how they process it. There are so many people already stealing their name to sell crappy hair, so they don't need people stealing their techniques on top of it.
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Frenchie, you're right.
I'm not saying they need to tell us their trade secrets.
I think most companies who coat their hair put a lot of jive lingo on
the package and generally people have no idea what it means but it
sounds glorious.
When they say it's "European" most people
trust them because they feel the soft, silky hair. If they would honestly say it's
Indian it would be obvious that the hair was processed and siliconed, after several washes it becomes coarse and mattes up.
Indian hair is dry and coarse by nature, it becomes worse after the
acid bath a lot of these companies perform to remove the cuticle. The
hair also gets bleached because lets face it, you CANNOT color Indian
hair without bleaching it first. When the silicone coat is gone - time
to buy new hair. People have to know the origin, period. Nobody is
asking them about their processing secrets!
Edited by malibu - April 18 2007 at 12:32pm
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Bohyme is a mixture of European, Asian and Indian hair. The cuticle is intact, it is processed obviously because otherwise it would only come in black. However, the cuticle is not damaged during possessing because we use a food grade chemical, to remove the color and then also a food grade chemical to put the color back in. You could actually put your hand in the chemicals and then lick your fingers. Bohyme owns the copyright to the word Remi which means that the hair runs root to tip.
Hi Debbie, can you answer these questions. There are some questions on the forums concerning Bohyme hair and I thought it might be more helpful to get a Bohyme representative's response so I can better answer these questions:
I've been trying to learn about the origins of the hair we love and I've been thinking... where the heck does Bohyme hair come from? Is it Indian? Asian? I know it was coarser when I felt it than the Russian hair I'm wearing now. It seemed as course as the Wagman Indian hair I used to wear. I got to wondering about this the other day. And does Bohyme have its cuticle intact or is it processed? I searched all over the Iinternet and the ads says Bohyme is "remy" hair. I thought "remy" meant the cuticle was intact. But then I heard that Bohyme has been processed. And what in heck is a bohyme? I even looked it up on Wikipedia and couldn't find it. I'm probably just not looking in the right place but I've had a dickens of a time trying to get a straight answer to these questions. TIA for any help or information on this.
Thanks for the information, Sherrie! That's so interesting. The representative from Bohyme was saying that the only processing done to the hair is coloring it. I wonder how Bohyme turns the texture of Indian hair into such a sleek straight product without doing anything to the cuticle? Indian hair always has a frizzy, bunchy quality unless the texture is processed quite a bit. I guess it is just a part of their magic way with hair!
Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE!
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That's great to know sherrie, personally, if it works, it works. That's all I care about. You could cut hair off someone's ass and if it holds up well and looks good on me, then I am sold! (Although I might wash it like 100000x with gloves on before even touching. And needless to say I would never tell ANYONE what the origins of the hair were!)
But I personally still don't get this whole origin thing. I mean, russian is great, but I know some real russians, and from my understanding they have never processed their hair, and frankly, I would never want that stuff on my head! So why is some so nice?
I think it's all a big scam!
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That's a very good point. I think a large factor is how the person takes care of themselves from the inside out, ie, their eating habits, do they intake enough vitamins/nutrients/minerals, etc...And the reasons could be by choice, or because of the living conditions.
Another large part could be genetics. And sometimes even hormonal changes or imbalances could affect the quality of the hair too. Maybe the person was on birth control or medication, etc..
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I can tell you first hand this Russian hair I'm wearing has held up
better than any hair I've tried. I'm not a seasoned vet or anything but
this hair blends in like my own and I don't have to think about it at
all. It's truely a pleasure. With any other hair I've tried I have to
brush it several times each day while I'm sitting in my office at work.
It's not like I was out at the beach.
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That's great to know sherrie, personally, if it works, it works. That's all I care about. You could cut hair off someone's ass and if it holds up well and looks good on me, then I am sold! [IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" align="middle" /> (Although I might wash it like 100000x with gloves on before even touching. And needless to say I would never tell ANYONE what the origins of the hair were!) But I personally still don't get this whole origin thing. I mean, russian is great, but I know some real russians, and from my understanding they have never processed their hair, and frankly, I would never want that stuff on my head! So why is some so nice? I think it's all a big scam! [IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="middle" />
<FONT face=Arial size=2>I think the point that was made here is that the hair from someone's ass, chemically treated to look good and to work for you, will eventually become just a hair from someone's ass that don't work for you no more. And next time, when you buy hair you will be avoiding buying hair from ass, trying to find out origin of the hair you buy, cause ass hair don't work too good for you in a long run.[IMG]smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="LOL" />
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<FONT face=Arial size=2>I doubt you know many Russians. There are no that many of them in the United States. The people who you know is the other ethnic group of immigrants from "Russia", former Soviet Union to be exact. And that group is very large.[IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Wink" />
Tell that to the Russian people I know and there will be some problems!
But...um...yeah, thanks for telling me I don't know what I am talking about??
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I think it's all a big scam! [IMG]smileys/smiley2.gif" align="middle" />
What's a big scam Columbo?
I think Naked Eye called "scam" those who sell Asian/Indian hair as European.[IMG]http://talk.hairboutique.com//smileys/smiley1.gif" height="17" width="17" align="absmiddle" alt="Smile" />
No, scam refered to all the origin junk. It's probably all just from one person who has a hair growth problem!
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"All the origin junk" ? You know, one person's "junk" is another's treasure. It's bizarre that a simple expression of curiosity about a subject we all like to talk about has provoked such critical responses.
Here's to the end of my BAD HAIR LIFE!
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<laughing> Talk about bizarre! Have y'all noticed the big blue advertisement in the middle of this thread? [IMG]smileys/smiley3.gif" align="middle" />
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However, the current ads are bought by advertisers according to the Goggle "trigger words" that they buy. Those words are then searched for and the ads appear. In this case the words might be hair extensions, Russian hair, human hair, add-on hair or similar.
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I think we should all calm down a bit. This is just hair.
We are all different people with different perspectives, I personally am interested in the origins of the hair I am wearing, and I think it's natural curiosity.
Some girls just love russian hair and think it's the best, why not respecting this point of view?
And some just don't care about where the hair they're wearing is from, and that is just fine too.
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People are different as to what matters to them, for some it may be where the human hair they buy comes from and how it was obtained, for others is how their food was grown (organic/conventional) and where it was grown (locally, etc.), and still for others, their concerns may be with the moral or religious beliefs of those they do business with. We all (consumers and producers) have our own moral compasses, preferences and even phobias and we live our lives accordingly at any given time.
The only way to be certain of the origins of human hair is to buy it directly from the person who grew it. Even if it matters to them, those who traffic (I know, bad word, but I couldn't think of one with a better connotation right now) in human hair cannot always know the personal situation of those providing of every hair that comes their way as they are likely depending on the honesty of others as well. Of course, there are those that don't care because it is not important according to their beliefs, etc. Folks, no matter what - the bottom line for anyone running a business is $$$$, making a living.
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(Although I might wash it like 100000x with gloves on before even touching. And needless to say I would never tell ANYONE what the origins of the hair were!)
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