no no no metal girl! dont leave, let me! you are so wonderful here! I have a habit of speaking my mind in everything, and sounding like a ***** when it isn't the intention and I totally understand it sounded awful! I am an argumentative *****.
I spend a lot of time in heated debates, and it carried over here, please don't leave, I will sweetie. Really, you are a help here, I am not.
I am so sorry, sweetie, really. I didn't mean to offend you.
I don't think you should leave either. Obviously, you misinterpreted what MetalGirl meant, and you've apologized for that.
We should all just keep this sort of thing in mind as we post going forward. I don't think anyone means to offend anyone else, but sometimes when we're stressing a point, it can be misunderstood as attitude; usually it's not attitude at all. People have misunderstood me as being too negative before too, when I was only trying to help others avoid the same mistakes I've made.
Anyway, I think you should both stay. MetalGirl always offers wonderful insights and advice, and you've become a very active, involved member in a short time. I think there's room for everyone here.
Metalgirl, Jenny, Bridget, Amm, Emma.... You all have wonderful insight, experience,& knowledge to share.So whether licensed or DiY... THAT IS WHAT THIS FORUM IS FOR!!!! Personally, I am licensed. Yes regulations need to be set. Otherwise a DiY may think she's got it, But when she really doesn't she will have to seek help from a schooled profesional to correct any mishaps. You could relate that situation to all aspects of life...ie..You worked on your car but didn't solve the problem or even worse created more trouble. I see this everyday when someone colors or hilights their own hair...and it's a tragic mess! That is why you maintain a relationship with your stylist. An honest stylist will truly keep her client's best interest at heart as well as her workmanship. IT'S CALLED PRIDE! So... maybe things got out of hand. Hope no love is lost. May I quote Erykah Badu..."Keep in mind I'm an Artist and I'm sensitive about my sh**..."
May I quote Erykah Badu..."Keep in mind I'm an Artist and I'm sensitive about my sh**..."
Ha! I love Erykah Badu.
I think standards need to be set too, but I think a lot of states don't have a good handle on the extensions vs. cosmetology thing, and how they're different. I don't necessarily agree in letting whoever wants to call themselves an extensionist, but on the other hand I think making extensionists get licensed (when they don't want to do cosme work) is prohibitive and anti-business and illogical and a lot of other things. I really liked what I heard about Florida, which may have just been a rumor, where they instituted a "braider's license". This license is a short class (15 hours; about a weekend's worth) where they learned public health and safety, sanitation, hair and scalp conditions, etc. It still doesn't teach people actual skills, but that'd be hard since there are so many different techniques and methods of braiding and extending. It basically says, "Okay, we know we don't know enough about what you guys do to regulate it, but we'll at least teach you good health practices and then let you do your own thing." Which I think is a way better approach than many other states are taking.
Although I agree with you, Crackahead, on several points, I have to take issue with something you said: Yes regulations need to be set. Otherwise a DiY may think she's got it, But when she really doesn't she will have to seek help from a schooled profesional to correct any mishaps. You could relate that situation to all aspects of life...ie..You worked on your car but didn't solve the problem or even worse created more trouble. I see this everyday when someone colors or hilights their own hair...and it's a tragic mess! That is why you maintain a relationship with your stylist.
I had two professional, licensed stylists trash my hair, and believe me, I could've done a better, less-damaging DIY job myself. When I ran into trouble with these licensed professionals, I turned to the DIYers for help! So it works both ways.... :)
In May of 2003 I enrolled in my local community college. I would say that most of my classmates are single parents, male and female. How they go to school, work and take care of a family is beyond me and I give them high marks for doing it.
In Colorado you apply for your grants from the government and their given out according to income. The lower your income, the more you get. I know people who are going to go all the way through college on grants and not have to pay anything back when they graduate. Because Im married I dont qualify for but a pittance. The rest I take out in student loans. After tuition and books are paid I get a check from the college for living expenses. I have averaged about $3000 per semester since I started and let me tell you that has kept out butts out of the fire on more than one occassion. Of course Im going to have to pay it all back after I graduate but I consider it a small price to pay for getting an education and assistance.
If beauty colleges are acredited by the state you can qualify for government grants and even student loans.
Let me tell you ladies something....I started college at the age of 40 and I was scared toooooo death. Ive been home with my kids since they were born, and the thoughts of sitting in a classroom freaked me out, but now that Im close to graduating Im soooo very glad I did it. There are so many government grants out there available to women and scholarships galore. If there is something you truly want to do, then there is a way to get it done.
Please, I take none of this personally. HONESTLY! This forum is subject to everyone's opinion(and just like a##holes everyones got one!!!) Jenn, I agree with you! I work with "professionals" who feed their clients a plate of crap to compinsate for their lack of ability. Again this applies to all types of services(color,cuts,anything they won't own up to) That is unfortunate in our industry. People like those you've dealt with misrep. the rest of us in the industry who honestly have passion and integrity. Like I said before, you have to trust your gut and the relationship with your stylist. With that said Jenn and for several others on this forum...All you DIYs have schooled me and you Know your stuff. So, by you sharing your knowledge you've directed people out of harms way and advised them to ask questions and know what they are getting themselves into! That helps the honest people in my industry Thanks Again all... No love lost!!!!!
That's cool. I definitely wasn't at all offended by your post; I don't take it personally. I was just pointing out about the "professionals" thing, because there seems to be such a great disparity between the skills and integrity of some extensionists compared to others. That's why I always tell people if they're not happy with their stylists, they should find someone else--it takes a few tries sometimes.
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