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Thanks Save a Stray. I appreciate it!
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MALAYSIAN METHOD

First make sure your thread is double knotted and pinch a
small ponytail, they can be about a 1/4" - maybe 3/8" in size.
Make the 3 securing circles around the pony then sew another
two times curving your needle up through the 3 circles you just
made.

Then you split the ponytail.When you split the ponytail pull it
wide enough apart that the thread is forced right up snug to the
hairline.

Then go up through the ponytail you just split and make
another secure knot (can do another knot if needed). You only
need to do this one time and you now have made the finished
anchor.

Don't cut the thread if you don't need to. and go straight into
weaving in an out. Start going in as close to the anchored
ponytail you just made, so theres no space between the
ponytail and the first weaving in spot.

Weaving in and out all the way around to the other side and
make your second anchor. As soon as you have secured the
second anchor again, without cutting the thread backstitch. Just
like when you run out of thread when your sewing on a weft
and you need to go back through the weft to secure it from
raveling.

So all you are doing is taking the thread and back tracking over
the weaved track. You are just making it more secure to hold
the weft. Go all the way back to the first anchor and now you
just sew the weft straight onto the track. This is the Malaysian
track.



I hope you understand my explanation. If not fire away with
more questions...........hope this help.
Let me know how this works out for you!!


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No. Skyeam you don't basket weave again on the way back to the first anchor just backstitching going under(blanket stitch/slip knot) with the needle angled facing to the left if your right handed. You can use about 1/2" spacings is good going backwards.
You can just go through the middle of the anchored ponytail one more time and then you are ready to sew the weft on.

You can use a second stitch through the ponytail if you find it more secure at the start, You may find one is not enough,its up to you Skyeam. GOOD LUCK!!
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I started out the ponytail just as I would doing the "pole" weave method and I believe I got the first anchor pretty secure. My problem was weaving the thread through the hair from left to right- since I'm right handed. i'm also using a curved needle. A straight would probably work better. I could see how this would work well with textured hair. I'm going to perfect it on the mannequin and then a friend before I try it on a client. You are such a jewel for sharing this information! I may contact you with more questions- so be on the look out! Thank you girl!
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she starts from the right side with the first ponytail then basket weaving to the left side. I also think a straight needle would be a tad easier. Great..... I think you will have it down in no time.
I do think she has the best video''s for sure!!
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Starting out on the right side makes since if you're right-handed. I'll try it that way next time. I just completed one track and I sewed in a hand-tied weft I recently put together. It's nice and flat. I like it! I'm sure her videos are nice; but they are so expensive! What other Lisha Coleman video is worth the investment?
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I really like every video she has put out. She's a good teacher and explains everything. I don't think you can go wrong with any video that you purchase from her.

I really liked her Secure Locking video. She has alot of extra info in the tape on securing attachments with this method and how to make head templates. She explains it very clearly. I think it is better for med/coarse textures. As metalgirl and I both found, fine hair does tend to slip a little.

I will always buy her videos in the future. I really can't say that about to many other videos I have bought though. Hair to Go, I would look into again if they come out with some new extension ones. Lisha Coleman's my favorite.

Happy Weaving!!
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Save A Stray,

Have you purchased Lisha's Swedish Method video? If so, what do you think about it. On her site, she says it works well with fine hair.
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Yes, I do think I have this one. I looked on her site and the Swedish Method cover is the exact same one I have but named differently.
When I bought it 5 years ago it was called The Strand To Strand Method, which has been called French Lacing according to the cover I have.
My box also has the blonde girl with the fine hair on the back of the box. I almost sure it's the same tape.
It's basically the same Malaysian ponytail knot method, in little ponytails all the way around the head with about 1" spacings between ponytails which are all linked together with the thread as you go from pony to pony. That's the track!!
It's supposed to last 6 - 8 weeks.
Hook it up Skyeam!! I just picture you running off to get your mannequin head...haha
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Oh my gosh! You have me cracking up over here! How did you know I was running to get my mannequin head. I told myself I was going to burn all of my heads after I got my license. However, when your a hair weaving specialist, I guess you have to hang on to them for practice purposes. Lisha is getting over on these tapes! She knows she could have added the multiple ponytail technique to the Malaysain video and she could have said this is for more reinforcement. She had to give it a new name and everthing! I guess she's tryin' to stay paid too. Can't blame her on that one. Well, I must go so I can go practice the "Swedish" technique! Ciao!
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Skyeam~The only difference I see from the Malasyian ponytail
knot is that she doesn't go up through the split ponytail with the
thread. Do the first 3 steps only -circle around 3 times, up
through circle 2 times and splits the ponytail pulling taunt
making sure the thread is snug by the hairline then just lets the
ends drop back down, move right on to the next ponytail. That's
the only difference.Her second track was all different spacings
apart. You can use 1/2" 1", 2"....what ever spacings you
want.....no rules here!!

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Yip, I saw you runnin........GO GIRL!!
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Okay, so on the Malaysian she doesn't knot the ponytails in between at all? She just circles around 3 times, then two times up through the circled thread, then moves on to the next? What about back stitching?
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You do go up through the split ponytail with the Malaysian
Method but not on the Swedish. That's what I was saying the
difference was between the two.Okay you got it?!!


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But on the Swedish you still definitely have to knot the end anchors, right?
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Look at my first post on this page .....Follow the first 2 lines
only.....that is the swedish ponytail. Then you lace on to the next
pony.

I don't know how else to explain to you. I'll try again if you still
haven't got it. >^..^<

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Skyeam~ you can go up through the end anchors a third time if you feel you need it.
Try a combination~ you can use the Malaysian knot on the ends and the rest the other way.
Fine hair you would space closer together.
You can spray down the hair lightly if you want to make it easier with fly away's.
She does say this has been called the pole method......!!Missed that last time.

So is your Mannequin all hooked up?!!
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This may be the most complex thread I've ever read on this board. You girls are in an advanced-weaving universe of your own. Perhaps we can turn this into a tutorial afterward? :)
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HAHAHA I was thinking the same thing Jenn....this one is way over my head. Its like a whole different world! But its interesting to read about a whole different method than most of us know anything about! Weaving sounds like a very complex technique. And it sounds like it takes alot of skill and practice.
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