QuoteReplyTopic: PH/Dome Pinchbraids--Almost 4 Weeks Wear Posted: April 24 2005 at 11:29am
Well, these updates are probably getting a bit repetitive, I know, but
I just wanted you to see the PH/Dome combo after nearly 4 weeks of
wear. I've blow-dried this hair twice now (once about a week ago and
once last night). I've washed the length about 6 times.
I used hot rollers here (the 1 3/4 brand-new jumbo Revlon ones), which
do *not* create nearly as much curl as the vintage Clairol ones I have.
With the old Clairol ones, I can leave them in for 4 minutes and get
tight curls; with these, I leave them in until they cool, and it's much
looser (but I like the looser waves anyway, so...). Here, I actually
didn't leave them in until they were fully cool, which was probably a
bad idea.
Only products used since I got the hair: Dome Care Spray, Bedhead
Headrush Spray (like the Beyond the Zone Flasher Spray) and a bit of
diluted fabric softener in a spray bottle during and after washing.
Same question as Kimbearly: are you happy with it? Do you plan to keep it this way for a while or do you have another plan simmering away for next time?
Aw...thanks. I'm thrilled with the hair overall. The quality of this
synth is wonderful, and I'm having a lot more sucess with it this time
(since I know what do do with it now, lol!). I'm definitely sticking
with PH going forward, but I'm ditching the Dome, just because it costs
more than the PH and PH has the white-blonde color in stock. As far as
I can tell, the quality is the same. So for the next install, I'll do
100% PH, but I also want to try out the WaWa and some of the other
therms, too, so I need to figure out how to incorporate those into the
mix. I don't intend to use HH again.
I'm also having much more luck as a result of the install this time.
Isaac spent a lot of time razoring and layering it. I wasn't sure about
it at first because I usually like the look of one-length hair better,
but I have to say, it wears much better with the layers and lots of
razoring.
What else? Issac also filled in any non-braided areas and made all the
braids just a bit smaller overall, which has really improved matters
tremendously. I had some problems with pieceness last time, but it's
not an issue anymore.
My only difficulties are really just due to the inherent challenges of
dealing with my own (real) hair. The braids are fairly well-concealed
in the photos, but because my hair's so thin, fine, and light, they're
fairly visible when the wind blows (my real hair just blows all over
the place, while the synth, which is heavier, stays put). Extendtubes,
shrinkies, and fusion are smaller, but I still have the same problems
with them. For this reason, I may just get the braids done all the way
to the top going forward, incorporating them as part of the style,
rather than concealing them with my very thin, weak, damaged "top
hair." It's worth a try anyway.
I think it still looks fantastic, the curl seems a lot better than last time as well. Think you are onto a winner. At least if you try the Wa Wa and don't like it you know what you do like and what works for you now xx Thanks for keeping us informed that's what these boards are for so keep it coming xx
Hey Jenny, your hair looks great! 4 weeks, huh! That's super! and it still looks great! What ph color is that? and what do you use for your roots? I know this is a repeat question...sorry!
hey jenny - these posts aren't repetative at all. your hair looks fabulous...i agree with bridget, there really isn't that much subjective difference between the two picks...the former looks slightly more "fluffed" up for lack of a better term; the wave to me looks really really close...perhaps more rollers/smaller sections may fluff it up a bit?
Seriously, Kat, they're a lot easier to take care of than human, imo.
It's just a matter of getting the hang of it (which, in many ways,
means not doing a whole lot to it).
If you run into any problems, there are about 50 of us on this board to help you through it, so don't worry!
:)
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Maybe you could try rolling your hair starting at the top and in a spiral pattern rather than a straight roller roll, get what I mean? The original 50mm wave has kind of a spirally quality as opposed to a rollered wave. And I have the best results when curling thermofiber by starting at the top of the hair and rolling toward the ends. Less 'beauty queen' curl and more continuous wave.
I hope that makes sense.
Edited to say I know that technique was posted here before (how else would I have known about it, seriously) but it might bare repeating.
Definitely, Syren--good points all. The PH is definitely a spiral
pattern. I haven't really played around with the rollers enough to
perfect my technique, but I'm going to try all of those things soon. :)
What does something like this cost for hair and installation? A range is fine!!
Sure. The hair is $13 a bag, and I'd say you need about 3 to 4 bags for
something like this (3 would be ample if the hair is doubled over).
Then, the install costs me $350. I generallly get them redone every 2
to 2 1/2 months, but you could definitely go for 3 months with these.
Bridget wrote:
What ph color is that? and what do
you use for your roots? I know this is a repeat question...sorry!
It's a mix of the PH Vanille and the Dome White (which is like a true
white-blonde platinum--I'm going to switch to the PH Perlweiss for
that, though, since it's the exact same color).
For my roots, I use this Feria 205, which gets me from my natural color (light brown/dark blonde)
to platinum--no red tones whatsoever. My only complaint about it is
that it has two powder bleach packets, so when you're doing your roots,
you have to be careful to get every single hair, because it's not
spreadable (hope that makes sense).
This one--the Feria 200--produces virtually the same result (I use them
interchangably, really), but it's just slightly more yellow, as opposed
to white, and it's more liquid, so it spreads more easily.
This one--the Loreal 10NB--is the one I used for more than 10 years,
before I switched to the Feria last year. This is considered more of a
high-lift peroxide (because it has no separate bleach packet), but if
you overlap, it can still be damaging. This would take my hair to
almost platinum, but not quite, and it oxidizes (gets a bit brassy)
over time. It works pretty well, though.
:)
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I'm also having much more luck as a result of the install this time. Isaac spent a lot of time razoring and layering it. I wasn't sure about it at first because I usually like the look of one-length hair better, but I have to say, it wears much better with the layers and lots of razoring.
I have to agree that that makes a HUGE difference. I've been doing lots of fill-in synthetic installs on the sides of my head and it's SO hard to get the razoring and layering correct. . .getting it done correctly up front is crucial. My 28mm was SO crazy, curly, like-nothing-I-ever-had that she didn't cut it much, so I did. Once it started to drop, the ends looked terrible, which is why I had to replace them.
Jenny_RR wrote:
My only difficulties are really just due to the inherent challenges of dealing with my own (real) hair. The braids are fairly well-concealed in the photos, but because my hair's so thin, fine, and light, they're fairly visible when the wind blows (my real hair just blows all over the place, while the synth, which is heavier, stays put). Extendtubes, shrinkies, and fusion are smaller, but I still have the same problems with them. For this reason, I may just get the braids done all the way to the top going forward, incorporating them as part of the style, rather than concealing them with my very thin, weak, damaged "top hair." It's worth a try anyway. .
Yes ultimately that's the challenge. I have the same problem, except with multiple colors going on as well. Your color is so gorgeous, and the pinch braids look so cool, that I really think they'd work well as part of the whole overall look!
In general I AM VERY ENCOURAGED BY THIS!! I am getting my 50mm installed in less than 2 weeks -- and I feel like I'm limping to the finish line with this 28mm!!
Just FYI - all - I'm on NINE weeks and NOT ONE of my heat sealed braids has budged. NOT ONE. They are feeling loose and will be ready to go, but when I take them out (like I have on the sides), the underlying hair (mine) is completely undamaged; just slightly kinked from the braid. IMO the more of your head you can do with the braids, the better...
Jenny I agree your posts are NOT repetitive. Keep them coming!! Next week I'll do a post on my 9+ weeks old PH install with some HSF/Wawa/HH add ins. . .
I can't wait to see your next install, Fina. From the sounds of it,
your real hair is the same as it would be after pinchbraid removal--a
little kinked from the braid, but totally intact and healthy. I'm also
happy to hear the heat-seals also haven't budged--I have the same luck
with pinchbraids. The two methods are really quite similar.
I think you'll love the 50mm, too. It's such a gorgeous wave. I do
think it'll drop faster than the 28mm, though, so you may want to avoid
washing your hair (although I know you wash your hair a lot), or just
wash the top, for at least a few days to prolong that initial wave
pattern. Of course, you can always reset it, though.
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