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    Posted: July 10 2005 at 9:06am

Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

 
stacie,
i finally got a chance to try my acv rinse with witch hazel instead of the acv. i personally didnt like the results. it felt like the witch hazel stripped my hair. i would probably never try it again. but you go ahead and see if it works for your hair, as your hair will react differently than mine did. i have heard that witch hazel can be used as a light weight setting lotion. idk how this would work, but it cant hurt to try. good luck with the experementing.

Thanks for letting me know. Did you use it straight or did you mix it with anything?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 10:50pm

Originally posted by Blended Beauty Blended Beauty wrote:

If it's accepted that black people and white people generally have different hair textures, why do people deny that interracials do too?  That just makes no sense unless you have something against interracials.

There is NO standard hair texture for any racial ethnic group.  I've seen black people with naturally straight smooth hair and I've seen white people with VERY natrually kinky hair that use relaxers to relax the kink out of there hair like some black women do! I've seen biracials with kinky hair, curly hair and straight hair.

Hair is hair.  No one group has a 'patent' on any one type of hair.

Heck, my sister has naturally curly hair.  She's not bi-or multracial.  She's black.  I have kinky hair.  I have cousins with naturally straight hair.  We're all black. 

There's no such thing as 'white' hair, 'black' hair, 'biracial' hair or 'mutilracial' hair.

Do you get it now?

Relax.  No one's on an 'I hate multiracials' campaign.  People are just trying to tell you something because you sound very uninformed.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 10:38pm
 i personally believe that everyone's hair texture is just slightly different that the next person you see walking down the street. no one blanket product is going to work for everyone. finding a hair product that works for you is just all about experementing with different categories of products. if blended beauty's products work for her, well then thats great. she has finally ended her long and difficult search. and if they happen to work for other people, good for them too. i think all of this controversy over race is stupid. as i stated earlier, it doesnt matter what race you are, it just matters what type of hair is on your head, and what your hair responds to. so, i vote we put all of this race controversy aside, and try to answer blended beauty's origional question.

stacie,
i finally got a chance to try my acv rinse with witch hazel instead of the acv. i personally didnt like the results. it felt like the witch hazel stripped my hair. i would probably never try it again. but you go ahead and see if it works for your hair, as your hair will react differently than mine did. i have heard that witch hazel can be used as a light weight setting lotion. idk how this would work, but it cant hurt to try. good luck with the experementing.
learn to love what you were born with
you can do anything if you set your mindto it (just dont try this with hair,that could turn out bad)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 2:39pm
If it's accepted that black people and white people generally have different hair textures, why do people deny that interracials do too?  That just makes no sense unless you have something against interracials.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 2:30pm

What does being mutilracial have to do with the texture of your hair?  Your problem/description sounds universal to me.  You're trying HARD to make it seem unique to one group of people, though.  Hey, whatever floats your boat! 

It's a multiracial thang....ya'll wouldn't understand....

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 2:01pm

"Hair is hair, no matter what race...everyone's is different"

That's contradictory. Either hair is hair, and it's all the same, or everyone's different. I agree that AAs have the same problem. Their hair is not like white hair just as mine is not like white hair. I don't know what the problem is with me saying my hair is not like every other curly hair out there. That's what you all were saying before but now you are saying that everyone's different. So than it's okay for me to say that my hair is different from most curly hair without you all jumping on me. And I didn't blow you off. I was talking to someone else but I didn't quote.  I don't know why you don't understand. You should. You are obviously not black, but black identified. You don't have typical black hair so you should understand when I say my hair is not like blacks or whites and I can better relate to mixed race people who in general will be more likely to have a hair type like mine.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 12:58pm

Originally posted by Blended Beauty Blended Beauty wrote:

Actually I didn't promote anything.  I only tried to have a normal conversation and I didn't reject anything. You should reread my posts. It was everyone else who kept trying to shut me up about race. Why does everyone want to deny that not all races, in general, have the same hair. It's like saying green is blue. Curls products are specifically for multiracial hair. It says it on the site. It's not just for curly hair because she also knows that multiracial hair is different than other curly hair. Everyone here seems to want to just argue and prove some sort of point. I wasn't discussing race in general. I was only explaining the type of hair that I have. There's nothing wrong with that. People should have to tippy toe around talking about why they look a certain way. This is not a very friendly place, simply because you've proven my point that curly haired people who are not multiracial don't understand multiracial hair and are determined to say it isn't any different. But really you wouldn't know.

When I tried to talk to you, you blew me off and said I needed to be multiracial to understand.  Why???  That was very rude.  You weren't interested in anything I had to say after that and I don't understand.   Also what is your definition of Multiracial?  Multiracial and biracial are two totally different things and you are using them like they are the same.  Most african americans are multiracial...meaning none of us are pure African.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by Pokahontas Pokahontas wrote:

Originally posted by Sweetcandicurlz Sweetcandicurlz wrote:

I totally agree with Blended Beauty!!! I do know exactly what she is talking about and where she is coming from. Someimes it is hard for me to pick out hair products, b/c usually "white" products don't work so good, and "black" products don't work so good either, but I am forced to buy one of them since my hair needs some kind conditioning, and when I found out about Blended Beauty's hair products, I was very excited about it and even though I havn't tried her products yet, I am eager to start! I just wanted her to know, I guess

Your statement is true for african americans also (speaking for myself).  Not all white products work for me and not all black products work either so you don't have a valid point.  If you talk to african americans in other forums they use white and black products and neither one always work.  Hair is hair, no matter what race...everyone's is different...not just biracial.  I'm not trying to argue, just simply stating my opinion.

 

 I Agree, I'm black and the "ethnic" isle is not where I go to shop  for products. They don't work for me and many other people that I know.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 12:33pm

Originally posted by Sweetcandicurlz Sweetcandicurlz wrote:

I totally agree with Blended Beauty!!! I do know exactly what she is talking about and where she is coming from. Someimes it is hard for me to pick out hair products, b/c usually "white" products don't work so good, and "black" products don't work so good either, but I am forced to buy one of them since my hair needs some kind conditioning, and when I found out about Blended Beauty's hair products, I was very excited about it and even though I havn't tried her products yet, I am eager to start! I just wanted her to know, I guess

Your statement is true for african americans also (speaking for myself).  Not all white products work for me and not all black products work either so you don't have a valid point.  If you talk to african americans in other forums they use white and black products and neither one always work.  Hair is hair, no matter what race...everyone's is different...not just biracial.  I'm not trying to argue, just simply stating my opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 09 2005 at 9:07am
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 11:39pm
I totally agree with Blended Beauty!!! I do know exactly what she is talking about and where she is coming from. Someimes it is hard for me to pick out hair products, b/c usually "white" products don't work so good, and "black" products don't work so good either, but I am forced to buy one of them since my hair needs some kind conditioning, and when I found out about Blended Beauty's hair products, I was very excited about it and even though I havn't tried her products yet, I am eager to start! I just wanted her to know, I guess
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 5:52pm
And the only reason I never said much about the advice was because I never asked for advice or insinuated that I needed it. I was pretty clear about what I was asking. I never meant to be rude about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 5:28pm
It's not fair to say I tried to promote anything. The link I gave was way before stating I had a line and it was only the page with pictures of types of hair. There's only one link on that page that goes to the home page and it's a text link that can be easily missed.  I was only trying to show what my hair looks like. If I was trying to promote it, there's  a lot more I could say. But I do know that they will sell themselves. I do say my products are made for multiracial hair, because it is the truth. There are so many lines for blacks and whites, why not have one for interracials?  Why would people be against that?  It doesn't hurt anyone. No one is forced to use them. I could have mentioned it much earlier but never had any intensions of saying anything. I already stated why I started the thread.  Most multiracial people are very glad to hear about my line and I've helped many that curls could not help. I was not looking for trouble here. I only asked what people were doing to care for their curls. That's is all. Specifically I wanted to know if people use witch hazel.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 5:00pm

Stacey -

I think there maybe a cultural barrier here.  Also, your intentions were not really clearly defined in your earlier posts.  My initial post to you was me offering suggestions about products and quite sincere.  I am as interracial as they come, I just don’t buy into all of this.  I use whatever products make my relaxed hair feel great.

To clarify, I own and use several products from Curls (as well as many other high end lines).  I researched the products before trying any so I am well aware that they were created with bi/inter racial curlies in mind.  In fact, I wrote this in my initial post to you. (Maybe helpful if you re-read it?)  However, in stark contrast to some of your statements, the message from the founder of Curls is very inclusive and stresses that the products are appropriate for many hair types, specifically dry, curly, ethnic hair.  Generally, when people write her for advice about hair issues, she does not ask about ethnicity. Doesn’t need to.  She just asks for facts about the hair and the issues present to try to come up with a solution.  

I stand by my earlier posts and after re-reading your posts (always happy to clarify for your or my benefit) I see that you never flat out refused anyone’s hair advice, just sort of put them off by saying “they wouldn’t understand because they were not bi/inter racial.”  Again though, maybe this was not your intention.

I think that you as a business woman should seriously consider that your statements, however innocent your intentions, could be misconstrued and result in potential customers feeling as though you do not identify with them, that you do not make products for them and that you are not interested in selling to them. As for my assumption that you were promoting your products, you gave a link to your site and mentioned your hair care line in your posts.

No hard feelings.  I just don't agree with your methods and some of your statements.

In reference to another poster (don’t know name), it may be helpful for some hairdressers to know a person’s background, but hasn’t been necessary in my case.  Maybe the ones I have been to don’t know that they need to ask?

 

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I almost posted a reply to Stacy regarding my hair type...BUT I NOT DARE  ...everyone here totally jumped on her question, why, because she is bi-racial??  Bi-racial people usually DO have a different texture of hair, but not all of them. Sometimes knowing the ethnicity of people helps.  I've had several hair stylist ask my mix...and it helped them determine what to put in and do with my hair!!

 

 



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I meant people 'should not' have to tippy toe
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Actually I didn't promote anything.  I only tried to have a normal conversation and I didn't reject anything. You should reread my posts. It was everyone else who kept trying to shut me up about race. Why does everyone want to deny that not all races, in general, have the same hair. It's like saying green is blue. Curls products are specifically for multiracial hair. It says it on the site. It's not just for curly hair because she also knows that multiracial hair is different than other curly hair. Everyone here seems to want to just argue and prove some sort of point. I wasn't discussing race in general. I was only explaining the type of hair that I have. There's nothing wrong with that. People should have to tippy toe around talking about why they look a certain way. This is not a very friendly place, simply because you've proven my point that curly haired people who are not multiracial don't understand multiracial hair and are determined to say it isn't any different. But really you wouldn't know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by afrolatina afrolatina wrote:

Several people in this thread have offered very good advice. 

However, Stacey, I think that the whole bi/multi racial spin in your posts specifically overshadows any of the curly hair advice offered, which is sad because this is a curly hair forum.

You say that where you are from people are comfortable discussing race.  Again, this is the wrong forum for that.  And in any case, you have rejected other’s input simply because they are not the same mix as you or on the basis that they did not fit your definition of “bi-racial” or “inter-racial”.   Kind of a contradictory and a very odd way to promote your products by ostracizing those very people who might be more inclined to try them.  Just goes to show you that book smart and people skills don’t necessarily go hand-in-hand.  Hope your products are good enough to sell themselves. 

Me, I’ll continue to purchase products for the curlies in my life from other sources such as Curls.biz.  Ask the founder for hair advice and she never even thinks to ask about one’s ethnicity.  Just asks them to describe their hair challenges so she can help find a solution. 

Good luck and hope you find more people that fit your criteria to conduct your research. 

 

Exactly! Very well put!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 08 2005 at 1:44pm

Several people in this thread have offered very good advice. 

However, Stacey, I think that the whole bi/multi racial spin in your posts specifically overshadows any of the curly hair advice offered, which is sad because this is a curly hair forum.

You say that where you are from people are comfortable discussing race.  Again, this is the wrong forum for that.  And in any case, you have rejected other’s input simply because they are not the same mix as you or on the basis that they did not fit your definition of “bi-racial” or “inter-racial”.   Kind of a contradictory and a very odd way to promote your products by ostracizing those very people who might be more inclined to try them.  Just goes to show you that book smart and people skills don’t necessarily go hand-in-hand.  Hope your products are good enough to sell themselves. 

Me, I’ll continue to purchase products for the curlies in my life from other sources such as Curls.biz.  Ask the founder for hair advice and she never even thinks to ask about one’s ethnicity.  Just asks them to describe their hair challenges so she can help find a solution. 

Good luck and hope you find more people that fit your criteria to conduct your research. 

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