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    Posted: October 19 2006 at 1:40pm
How does one use fillers when going from highlighted hair to their natural shade of brown. Say, someone has bleached highlights and they want to be a level 4 med. brown.....I understand the undertones will be dark orange, so I will have decide how much of that I want canceled out. For instance, if I want a golden med. brown, I might not use only an ash med. brown, but mix in some neutral med. brown too and then a tad of blue based toner. If no warm tones are desired then it would be a mix of only the ash and the blue....Right?
 The ash cancels out the dark orangey tones and the blue cancels out the ash overtaking my hair and turning it green and if I still wanted a little warmth  the neutral still allows for some warmth to still be in the hair.....okay....correct me if I am wrong, please, bc I am just trying to make sure I have this all right???
Now, to the fillers.....I gather you have to add some pigment back to stripped hair, so in order to reach brown, you have to apply some red.
Now is this red like a red haircolor..is it permanent, semi, demi....??
Do I use developer...10 or 20?
Or is this filler like ....it seems I read something about using a protein pack as a filler???
So, do I apply the red filler, let it process and rinse off and then proceed to apply the brown color mixture..........??? OR
Do I apply the red filler and then top it with a coating of the brown haircolor mixture??
And what shade of red do you go with ....light, medium, dark or does that depend on the light, med., or dark brown you go with....like they correspond with each other???
If this info is on the website and I missed it...sorry and if you know where it is, could you, please, tell me where.....Otherwise, any knowledge on this subject is welcome bc I am just trying to get a handle on it.....thanks!


Edited by Foxyloxy - October 19 2006 at 4:25pm
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there is an actual product called protein filler. it is made by colorful. at sallys it is usally located by the tint brushes and foils. ask the sales clerk if you can find it. it looks like this:
http://www.sallybeauty.com/shop/product-teen.asp?dept%5Fid=1480&pf%5Fid=636302

what you want to do is this:
1.) apply the red protein filler
2.) time 20 minutes
3.) apply the hair color (mixed as normal) over the protein filler
4.) rinse and condition like mad

this should give you brilliant color. however, as for the undertone mixing, i have no idea. maybe someone else could chime in with advice for that concern.
learn to love what you were born with
you can do anything if you set your mindto it (just dont try this with hair,that could turn out bad)
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Thanks alot. I have been trying to learn more about fillers since I colored my hair darker after having highlights for so long. I used a coppery brown color and it grabbed onto my porous ends. and now I have added some dark auburn streaks after the muddy ends started to fade and this explains why the second color seemed to do slightly better.
I read somewhere after you apply the filler to let your haircolor sit for 20 mins if using 20 vol. before applying so that you'd get more true tone....that you need the 20 vol. so that it activates, but after 20 min. the ammonia in the color has had time to dissipate.
Another way I have read about is applying a warm color such as copper right on the hair with no developer (acting as your filler) and timing 10 min. and then applying right on top of that  the desired color such a neutral med. brown (if that was the desired shade of brown) with the 20 vol. developer added to the med. brown color and timing....
Again thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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