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    Posted: August 25 2007 at 10:11am
Ok this is getting bad think I have to just take this install out completly. I had my stylist fix the top row, now the bottom row has completley fallen on one side making the hair on my left side 3 inches lower then my right side! I am so exhausted from this I dont know what to do, wish I knew how to take them out myself.
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Have someone help you. Is the braid loose? If not, you can by the needle and thread at your local BSS and sew it back on. Or you can have someone snip the thread to remove the track.
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sourgirl oh no. Im waiting patiently for the day when you can post you love your hair and everything is going okay!

I kind of thought you were going to have everything taken out and start all over? I dont know if its like this for evryone or it might just depend where your hair is thickest and thinnest but of all 3 of my tracks the one that feels always the least snug is the very bottom. Not that its coming out but with that one what happens is it tends to bend out slightly so if i push on it, it feels more bubbled out than the other 2. I just try not to pick or push on them. My guess on that is because my hair is probably the thinest right there so maybe that track has the least amount of natural hair holding it down.

Anyway, you cant let it be hanging like that because it might start to pull your hair and cause breakage. Maybe clip it up so no undue stress is being caused by the dangling weft and get back into her asap. If it were me, i would be exasperated by this time and might just say look, take all this out and please only put three wefts back in and dont cut them so they start unraveling and get them as tight as you can. Because:

A, you dont want them to start unraveling

B. You want them to stay on your head for a month at the least. i have fine hair and they are staying so it might be a method change you need. I saw something called malaysian weave technique and it looks good on both African American and caucasian and you can not see it at all. Very flat and small.

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For weaves, I use the micro ring weave method that is featured in the doctored locks tutorial.  It does not come out until you're ready to take it out.  Seriously, I have clients who wear this for up to 12 weeks!
 
 
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That looks good. So do the rings just give added reinforcment and make it snugger? I might want to try that also but whatever was done to me seems to work okay. I think in my case she used rubber bands which might be like the same idea to ad reinforcement and grip but rubber bands break down a lot sooner with water and they can start to untie and become loose so i like the look of the micro rings.
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The Doctored Locs method is very similar to the Malaysian method.. I think this will work MUCH better on ladies who are experiencing too much slippage with the traditional sew in methods..
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I think my hair was so rough and fried it just held okay lol

I have also been told by more than one stylist that I have fine hair but a fair amount of it. I dont really know what that means but I guess its not fine fine.
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Sourgirl, we are so in the same boat!  I am having the same problem.  I have had my install for one week and my husband has already had to resew 2 of the rows TWICE, he is re-doing them right now....as I type!  We must try this microring method.  Help, which rings to get and what size for the most discretion and super pale blonde?????
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Originally posted by kristiemlove kristiemlove wrote:

Sourgirl, we are so in the same boat!  I am having the same problem.  I have had my install for one week and my husband has already had to resew 2 of the rows TWICE, he is re-doing them right now....as I type!  We must try this microring method.  Help, which rings to get and what size for the most discretion and super pale blonde?????
 
Here is the link to Sherrie's shop with the microrings and tools needed to install them http://hairextensions101.com/main/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=11&Itemid=26
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Originally posted by krimsa krimsa wrote:

I think my hair was so rough and fried it just held okay lol

I have also been told by more than one stylist that I have fine hair but a fair amount of it. I dont really know what that means but I guess its not fine fine.
 
I think your hair is fine, meaning the individuals strands are thin but your hair's volume is not thin, not showing through to the scalp easily. You can have fine, full hair. Fine doesn't mean thinning hair.
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Can I just use the smallest size or do I need trumpets?  What is difference between the lined or not?  Looks like Sherrie is out of the pliers.  I will just get those on Doclocks I guess?  All pretty much the same?
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you can use regular non-cutting pliers from a hardware store. The size of the rings depends on you. You'll need rings, pliers, thread, needle and ring threader.
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Ah okay MsHoney, thanks for clearing that up. I didnt know because it sounded like two conflicting terms. I always throught "fine" meant your hair was thin by actual strand and also volume.

I would also be interested to find out if this microring method along with the weave holds in longer/tighter. I guess no matter what though you are dealing with the growing hair right so do the rings just move down like they normally would on a strand by strand install but they are up under the sewn weft?
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the rings don't move, your hair is growing longer. As your hair grows, you slide the microringed weft up the hair in the ring and reclamp it or you can remove the whole weft and readjust it. It would be easier to shampoo and condition your hair that way.
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Are you saying remove everything each time you shampoo and condition your hair? That seems like a lot of work. Its still sew in right over the rings? Thats how it looked in that demo but i could be mistaken.
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Those are to completely different techniques.
   One is a weft with microrings sewn onto it and you pull your hair through the rings on the weft then clamp shut. You don't have to remove the weft each time but you can if you want to.
   The second technique is the Malaysian or a version of the Malaysian that uses microrings or dental bands instead of cornrows to make a stable base to attach the weft to by sewing it in place with weaving thread.
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ugg...I have a real hard time just finding someone to do a sew in. What would you call that technique when calling around to salons?

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which technique? The sew-in is the Malaysian technique. The one with the microringed wefts you  easily install yourself.
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If I had a problem with the strand by strand micro links will I have a problem with this micro link technique?
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Oh, Im really confused again. I guess then what i might currently have is the Malaysian using dental bands and thread because i dont think she braided my hair ever. All i know is its holding fast. I will go back to her probably mid september though for a complete takedoen and redo. i will ask her please tell me step by step what you are doing lol. Then report back as it seems to be a good method for finer textured hair. I also have a stiff weft meaning its not clothlike and pliable but more like a ring. I wonder if that makes a differance or makes it grip better.
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