Ok track has fallen
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Topic: Ok track has fallen
Posted By: sourgirl
Subject: Ok track has fallen
Date Posted: August 25 2007 at 10:11am
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Ok this is getting bad think I have to just take this install out completly. I had my stylist fix the top row, now the bottom row has completley fallen on one side making the hair on my left side 3 inches lower then my right side! I am so exhausted from this I dont know what to do, wish I knew how to take them out myself. ------------- Currant method Hair locs. |
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Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 25 2007 at 1:36pm
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Have someone help you. Is the braid loose? If not, you can by the needle and thread at your local BSS and sew it back on. Or you can have someone snip the thread to remove the track. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 25 2007 at 8:20pm
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sourgirl oh no. Im waiting patiently for the day when you can post you love your hair and everything is going okay!
I kind of thought you were going to have everything taken out and start all over? I dont know if its like this for evryone or it might just depend where your hair is thickest and thinnest but of all 3 of my tracks the one that feels always the least snug is the very bottom. Not that its coming out but with that one what happens is it tends to bend out slightly so if i push on it, it feels more bubbled out than the other 2. I just try not to pick or push on them. My guess on that is because my hair is probably the thinest right there so maybe that track has the least amount of natural hair holding it down. Anyway, you cant let it be hanging like that because it might start to pull your hair and cause breakage. Maybe clip it up so no undue stress is being caused by the dangling weft and get back into her asap. If it were me, i would be exasperated by this time and might just say look, take all this out and please only put three wefts back in and dont cut them so they start unraveling and get them as tight as you can. Because: A, you dont want them to start unraveling B. You want them to stay on your head for a month at the least. i have fine hair and they are staying so it might be a method change you need. I saw something called malaysian weave technique and it looks good on both African American and caucasian and you can not see it at all. Very flat and small. |
Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: August 25 2007 at 10:34pm
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For weaves, I use the micro ring weave method that is featured in the doctored locks tutorial. It does not come out until you're ready to take it out. Seriously, I have clients who wear this for up to 12 weeks!
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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 8:35am
| That looks good. So do the rings just give added reinforcment and make it snugger? I might want to try that also but whatever was done to me seems to work okay. I think in my case she used rubber bands which might be like the same idea to ad reinforcement and grip but rubber bands break down a lot sooner with water and they can start to untie and become loose so i like the look of the micro rings. |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 12:21pm
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The Doctored Locs method is very similar to the Malaysian method.. I think this will work MUCH better on ladies who are experiencing too much slippage with the traditional sew in methods.. ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 9:13pm
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I think my hair was so rough and fried it just held okay lol
I have also been told by more than one stylist that I have fine hair but a fair amount of it. I dont really know what that means but I guess its not fine fine. |
Posted By: kristiemlove
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 9:48pm
| Sourgirl, we are so in the same boat! I am having the same problem. I have had my install for one week and my husband has already had to resew 2 of the rows TWICE, he is re-doing them right now....as I type! We must try this microring method. Help, which rings to get and what size for the most discretion and super pale blonde????? |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 10:05pm
Here is the link to Sherrie's shop with the microrings and tools needed to install them http://hairextensions101.com/main/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=11&Itemid=26 - http://hairextensions101.com/main/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=11&Itemid=26 ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
kristiemlove wrote:Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 10:09pm
I think your hair is fine, meaning the individuals strands are thin but your hair's volume is not thin, not showing through to the scalp easily. You can have fine, full hair. Fine doesn't mean thinning hair. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: kristiemlove
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 10:28pm
| Can I just use the smallest size or do I need trumpets? What is difference between the lined or not? Looks like Sherrie is out of the pliers. I will just get those on Doclocks I guess? All pretty much the same? |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 26 2007 at 11:02pm
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you can use regular non-cutting pliers from a hardware store. The size of the rings depends on you. You'll need rings, pliers, thread, needle and ring threader. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 5:53am
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Ah okay MsHoney, thanks for clearing that up. I didnt know because it sounded like two conflicting terms. I always throught "fine" meant your hair was thin by actual strand and also volume.
I would also be interested to find out if this microring method along with the weave holds in longer/tighter. I guess no matter what though you are dealing with the growing hair right so do the rings just move down like they normally would on a strand by strand install but they are up under the sewn weft? |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 10:52am
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the rings don't move, your hair is growing longer. As your hair grows, you slide the microringed weft up the hair in the ring and reclamp it or you can remove the whole weft and readjust it. It would be easier to shampoo and condition your hair that way. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:10am
| Are you saying remove everything each time you shampoo and condition your hair? That seems like a lot of work. Its still sew in right over the rings? Thats how it looked in that demo but i could be mistaken. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:17am
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Those are to completely different techniques.
One is a weft with microrings sewn onto it and you pull your hair through the rings on the weft then clamp shut. You don't have to remove the weft each time but you can if you want to.
The second technique is the Malaysian or a version of the Malaysian that uses microrings or dental bands instead of cornrows to make a stable base to attach the weft to by sewing it in place with weaving thread. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: sourgirl
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:39am
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ugg...I have a real hard time just finding someone to do a sew in. What would you call that technique when calling around to salons? ------------- Currant method Hair locs. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:42am
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which technique? The sew-in is the Malaysian technique. The one with the microringed wefts you easily install yourself. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: sourgirl
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:44am
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If I had a problem with the strand by strand micro links will I have a problem with this micro link technique? ------------- Currant method Hair locs. |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:46am
| Oh, Im really confused again. I guess then what i might currently have is the Malaysian using dental bands and thread because i dont think she braided my hair ever. All i know is its holding fast. I will go back to her probably mid september though for a complete takedoen and redo. i will ask her please tell me step by step what you are doing lol. Then report back as it seems to be a good method for finer textured hair. I also have a stiff weft meaning its not clothlike and pliable but more like a ring. I wonder if that makes a differance or makes it grip better. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:49am
You have to tell me which one you're talking about. The Malaysian or the microringed wefts? ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:53am
Krimsa, just call her and ask her. She will tell you what she did. Ask her the name of the technique or ask her to reply to this topic and tell us. Tell her you tried to describe it to us but aren't quite sure what she did. She won't be upset. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: kristiemlove
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 2:22pm
| Yes, Krimsa, please do tell. Labor Day weekend coming up. WILLING TO TRAVEL for long-lasting sew-in!!!!! |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 5:40pm
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Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 7:01pm
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Im now emberrassed to call her and shes also very busy. I promise I will just find out when I go next which is soon. i would rather ask her face to face or while shes doing it instead of making her explain over a phone.
All i can say is its holding great. I did get that one tightening by a lady in Florida but she didnt tie any wefts together and only made them flush up against my head again. They were not too terribly loose anyway. I have only three wefts so there is a fair amount of space in between each one so i dont think you could feasibly tie them together or it might hurt. Kristie, shes in Dorchester which is kind of right outside of Boston, Mass. Really nice lady. Here is her site: http://www.nvmyhair.piczo.com/?cr=4&rfm=y |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 7:23pm
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Nothing to be embarassed about.. It's only natural to want to understand what you have in your head.. Especially if it's new to you.. I don't know of any stylist who would have an issue answering the question..
Well once you talk to your stylist, and find out exactly what you actually have, you'll know how your tracks were created, and how the "tightening" was done. Mystery solved, and no more guessing!  ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 8:17pm
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Oh yeah I agree, its not her being weird, its me.
Its probably one of the methods you have guessed at. I suspect no braid because I would have felt that right? A lot of pulling? It seems like she laid the wefts on my head one at time, measured, cut, and then laid it back down and started sewing and using bands as she went. It felt very tight but not uncomfortable, just snug. |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 8:24pm
Not sure what you're worried or embarassed about, but just ask your stylist. I can promise you that she really won't have an issue with explaining when you ask.. ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: kristiemlove
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 8:40pm
| I understand where you are coming from, Krimsa. I had a braider once bite my head off for asking the positioning of the braiding and what works for me. I then had ANOTHER braider who refused to allow me to sit in front of a mirror while she did the braiding. She said I did not need to know what she was doing and I could just see the finished result. Pretty interesting these are the most expensive braiders in Dallas and do lovely work, but I just do not do ATTITUDE, I get enough from my daughter as it is! Suffice it to say, I did not go back to either. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 8:42pm
You shouldn't have stayed for either. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 5:32am
Good for you for not going back to either one of those stylists.. ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: kristiemlove
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 8:00am
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You know what the screwed up thing is? These women were REALLY good, BY FAR the best I have found so far, owners of the salons, double the price of anyplace else I have gone, CRAZY busy, but STRAIGHT UP RUUUUDE!!!!!!!! Sucks for me! |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 1:41pm
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ok, Kristie, how rude is rude. I don't know any stylist who wants their clients looking in the mirror while doing their hair. There also could be cultural differences between you and the stylists too.
I know some African stylists are pretty no nonsense people with a "Do you want you hair done or a lecture on how your hair is done, you don't get both you wouldn't understand me if I told you anyway" attitude  Black stylist are more relaxed and make you feel as if you've been friends for years and Dominican stylist? Oh they'll tell you to your face that your hair looks like crap and to never go back to the stylist you used before them and God help you if you did that damage to your own hair. They would turn you over their knee and whip your behind if the could. None are being deliberately rude, a woman from the same culture or used to dealing with stylist of different cultures wouldn't give it a second thought, tell the stylist "Whatever girl, just do my hair" If it's THAT kind of rude, you may be able to deal with it  .------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: Divavocals
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 3:05pm
I guess my thing is that if I'm paying and I want to look in the mirror while you do my hair, then DAMMIT turn the chair around so I can look in the mirror!!  ------------- Check out the 5th So Cal offline luncheon?? For more info: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com/lunch.html Links to my fav vendors & hair albums + Weave 101 information: divahairtalk.overthehillweb.com |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 28 2007 at 3:14pm
 Girl, I can't look in the mirror. I always think,
"Now THAT is not going to work" but it always does  . I don't even like to watch people do my daughters hair, I see a catastrophe behind every move the stylist makes .------------- ALL EYES ON ME |
Posted By: sourgirl
Date Posted: August 29 2007 at 7:42pm
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MY girl has me bent over the chair 2 inches from the ground lol I couldn't see what she was doing if I wanted to. ------------- Currant method Hair locs. |
Posted By: krimsa
Date Posted: August 29 2007 at 8:38pm
| Have you gotten it redone yet sour? Is that one weft still hanging off? |
Posted By: disasterbarbie
Date Posted: August 29 2007 at 10:01pm
| Is the sewing hard to do with the micro links? I have tried to sew hair onto clips before in the past and had a real hard time. It was always so messy and I never knew where to tie the knot. |
Posted By: Ms.Honey
Date Posted: August 29 2007 at 10:20pm
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No, it shouldn't be hard. The microringed hair forms a base in place of a braid and you sew the weft to that. You can sew over and around the weft or you can sew through the weft, my preferred method, which is a little harder. ------------- ALL EYES ON ME |