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Hi There,> If a woman has long straight hair, then she obviously> has had it that way for a few years, because that is> how long it takes to grow long straight hair.> So, if she updates her hair by getting an actual> style, as opposed to just having long straight hair,> the it is more modern RELATIVE to her.I don't know about you, but I don't want to confine myself to one hair style by cutting my hair into a style. I love to try new and different braids. I couldn't do this if my hair were short or medium length (shoulder length.)> I often see women who would look much better if they> would just update their hair, just a little. I am not> talking going radically short from below the> waist....perhaps cutting it to just below the> shoulders would make it so much better!If I cut my hair to my shoulders, or even to just barely draping the shoulders, I wouldn't be able to do half the things that I can do with my hair now. I wouldn't have enough hair for a decent braid, braiding would become merely a way to get my hair out of the way instead of a deliberate style. I wouldn't have enough hair for a decent bun. Hair can look very nice in a bun if there is enough of it so that you can tuck the ends under to keep them from sticking out, and (imo) if there is enough of it so that the bun is more than just a little knob on your head. I also wouldn't have the distinctive look that I happen to like.> After all, most people would say that "long> hair" is about anything that is below shoulder> length. But, down to a woman's tush is just a little> too much (IMO)....it detracts from the woman's real> beauty. It kind of indicates that the woman puts all> her "stock in herself" into her hair.Actually, I spend less time in front of the mirror than my mother, who has short hair, or my little brother does. Long hair isn't as much trouble as most people think. It is certainly less trouble than a shoulder or chin length bob.> But hey, it is an person's right to choose. I just> think a person who hangs onto the same old long hair> for years and years is making a silly choice!I don't think so. Long hair is my distinguishing feature. I don't really want to have a hairstyle that is just like everyone else's. (Growing my hair out fits my personality more than dyeing it green would.)> Think of long hair as a canvas upon which a great work> of art can be created. If you never paint the canvas> (cut the hair) you miss the potential.I agree, except on that "cut the hair" part. You can style hair without cutting it and thus comitting yourself. What makes long hair so much fun is the way you can do so many things with it.> And don't give me any of this bull about "hair> accessories and braids and buns" for long> hair....that is just more of the same old stuff. It> would be like mounting the blank canvas in a> succession of different frames....it is still just a> blank canvas in a bunch of different frames!A bun is different looking enough from long hair worn down to qualify as a different style. So is a braid, a twist, a herringbone braid, etc...> To update the hair, you have to cut some of it off (or> perm or color it) so you have a different style.....What if I don't want to? People with your attitude just motivate me to grow my hair longer.Erika
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>Hello Ally:I am really okay with Jerky flea and Dave.Dave explained it perfectly.Like I said you wouldn't want to hear me swear. I swear in both languages at the same time lolThank you for your kindness Ally.>
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That heading sounds like a children's book. Heh.Diane: Dave did the right thing when he turned a search light on the troll. This guy is blatantly abusing the board. He's not /really/ trying to call attention to a particular agenda, because that agenda keeps changing with his identities. Other participants deserve to know this.If you suddenly found out that Dave and JerkyFlea were the same person, wouldn't you feel betrayed?Also, I'm /sure/ JerkyFlea wasn't making fun of you. I know we all respect the fact that you're bilingual. I could never communicate in Spanish or Italian (my second and third languages) as well as you express yourself in English. You do a beautiful job and are always understood. However, it /is/ clear that it's not your first language, and slightly imperfect syntax is the hallmark of your posts. (To me it's charming and impressive.)When I first read that letter, I also thought someone ws impersonating you, because it came from out of the blue. It also seemed a lot rougher that your usual commentary. JF was actually coming to your defense.So please don't feel offended. I love your posts.Ally
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Hello Diane,Welcome back from your vacation.I responded as I did to Mark/Jack/BaldWoman because he was not onlyname-morphing but also agenda/point-of-view morphing (post-to-post,and between HB discussion boards). Basically, the person was beingwildly inconsistent, and thus, dishonest, about both his name andhis viewpoints. On one hand, in response to a Personals board ad toa lady with very long hair he professed to love long hair, yet onthe other hand, on the Politics board he several times described, inlurid detail, the process of headshaving (and once described the useof sedatives on the "victims"). The good people who visit thesediscussion boards deserve to know the truth behind this one person'sposting behavior.> Okay the bald topic is not one for this hair siteExactly. And that's the other reason for my post. There are websites out there that cater to that topic. But this is the HAIRBoutique. It's FOR hair.Dave
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>Okay Jerky Flea I believe you because it is also out of your character to attack me like that. My feelings were hurt and I am sorry I called you a Jerk. YOur words hit me hard. I try very hard to improve my English and I was upset by Dave post and it was the very first time that I have confronted Dave on this board.My thoughts were rushing faster than I could type. YOu should hear me swear at times lol
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Diane,Whoa! Sorry! Major misread on my part. I honestly thought it was Mark/Jack/whoever posting under your ID. It didn't really sound like you and the somewhat stilted sentence structure along with the frequent misspellings seemed very much like the style of the aforementioned troll poster. You must have just dashed the post off rather quickly to account for the stuff that I saw. I never meant to degrade you at all and was actually attempting to highlight that it WASN'T you with my post.My most sincere and humble apologies. I really don't know what to say.JFRelated Link:JerkyFlea's Celebrity Hair Spray
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> You captured Diane's broken Candian-English and> inability to spell perfectly! It was like she was> actually typing that post! Now do me!> Tongue firmly in cheek,> JerkyFleaFor God sakes it is only hair and there is no reason in life to attack people personally. Other people's opinions do not affect ours.There is no reason at all on any web sites to attack self esterm or attack someone self confidence. How do you think you make me feel Jerky Flea? Did I deserve to have my self esterm attack? I didn't attack yours or anyone on any web site so why do you feel you have the power to do this? It only makes you look like a Jerk.
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> You captured Diane's broken Candian-English and> inability to spell perfectly! It was like she was> actually typing that post! Now do me!> Tongue firmly in cheek,> JerkyFleaWe have the power to improve ourselves and when we do we make the lives of everyone around us richer. We do not have the power to change another person. IN other words I am really trying in life and if you choose to knock down my spelling and it makes you feel so much better for it than all the power to you bud.Personally I choose not to be a jerk in life.
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> You captured Diane's broken Candian-English and> inability to spell perfectly! It was like she was> actually typing that post! Now do me!> Tongue firmly in cheek,> JerkyFleaOkay JerkyFlea when I am upset I totally think in French and quickly type in English. At least I am trying. My first language is French. I wasn't aware that spelling was so important to you JerkyFlea. Why are you attacking me JerkyFlea? That wasn't very nice.My point was that a person has the right to express their thoughts and yes I agree that the topic should be on another web site but the point that I was trying to make is that there is no reasons to knock down a person self esterm and tell them that they need professional help. My point is that Dave is normally a very nice caring guy that hardly knocks down anyone and this was out of character.
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You captured Diane's broken Candian-English and inability to spell perfectly! It was like she was actually typing that post! Now do me!Tongue firmly in cheek,JerkyFleaRelated Link:JerkyFlea's Celebrity Hair Spray
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Hi.I just have to say this about these "modern" haircuts. I feel "modern" should be "fad". The Farrah wings in the 1970's, a fad. The "Bob" haircut in the 1920's, a fad. This talk about bald?, I hope it stays in "bald"'s dreams! I have a great-aunt who constantly tells me my long hair is out of style, and wants me to cut it off. (I have learned over the years to ignore her.)To us long-haired ladies: Resist these "fads". There is one hairstyle that has endured through centuries, and it is ..LONG!
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>Okay maybe you need to start you own web site as you seen to have lots to say about baldness. I don't have anything against it.
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>> Okay Dave I see that you spotted someone posted as more than one . Just ignore him/her.So what if that person feel about bald. Ignore them. It is not worth the stress.
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> Yawn... Dude, consult with a psychiatrist, you are in> serious need of professional help.Dear Dave:I have a terrible time to think that you actually type all that.So what if bald woman or if the person is mark or whatever feels that bald hair is a style.I disagree with you that it is anti hair. For some reasons it might be but many others it is isn't. I have talk to some people who are bald and none of them came across as anti hair. They all had their reasons. Okay the bald topic is not one for this hair site but there is no reasons at all to totally knock down someone and tell them that they need professonal help.This person has their right to feel the way he/she does. I been gone for two weeks and when I read your message something really doesn't seat right with me. I find your message very cruel. Sorry that is how I see it. If I didn't know you I would think you feel threathened by someone that think bald is a style.Okay you will be pissed off with me but I see all this in a diffirent view point. NOthing to do with anyone personally.
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> Dave> You get the record straight. I NEVER had anything to> do> with those messages about bald heads. There are other> persons who without permission,misused my e mail> address.> I am changing my e mail address to a private unlisted> e mail address. Unauthorized persons put out messages> without my consent. I am NOT responsible for the> erreneous> use of my e mail address and my name by other persons.> to an unlisted e mail.> MarkMark, Jack and Bald Woman all use the same ISP - conpoint.com located in Norfolk Nebraska. And sometimes they post from the same IP address, other times from different IP addresses in the same block.We at The Hair Boutique don't normally check out the posters to these boards as we trust our visitors to conduct themselves with a certain level of maturity. But occasionally we notice a trend and will check into the data a little further as in this case.So Mark, Jack, Bald Woman we know you are play a game here and we will continue to watch these talk boards and if you continue to play these games we will take appropriate actions.Jeffrey HinesThe Hair Boutique
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> Dave> You get the record straight. I NEVER had anything to> do> with those messages about bald heads. There are other> persons who without permission,misused my e mail> address.> I am changing my e mail address to a private unlisted> e mail address. Unauthorized persons put out messages> without my consent. I am NOT responsible for the> erreneous> use of my e mail address and my name by other persons.> to an unlisted e mail.> MarkHey Mark/Jack/BALD WOMAN,You're full of it.You never posted your e-mail address under your "BALD WOMAN" and your "Jack" posts (Yes, I see you have been posting under all these names, being at least careful enough to only post your e-mail address under "Mark").Let's just say that I KNOW that you are all the same person.OK? I have it on good authority, too. It's a fact.I saw your Personals Ad to Imari and you professed to "love ladies with long hair." You also posted as "BALD WOMAN" describing in lurid detail your head-shaving fetish. I would be willing to bet that Imari would like to be warned of your fetish, as it is so wildly inconsistent with her wish of finding a man who appreciates her hair as it is, instead of being targeted by you for your fetish which would destroy that which she has and appreciates.
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Welcome back Zorak,> In all of the discussion in this thread, I think that> everyone has missed the idea that an updated haircut> can be RELATIVELY modern for the invidual, rather than> ABSOLUTELY modern in terms of what is "in> vogue" in the overall fashion world.What I hear you saying is that there are a number of ways that the concept of "modern" can be applied. Yup.> If a woman has long straight hair, then she obviously> has had it that way for a few years, because that is> how long it takes to grow long straight hair.> So, if she updates her hair by getting an actual> style, as opposed to just having long straight hair,> the it is more modern RELATIVE to her.Your choice of words presumes that having long straight hair is indicative of not having a "style?" I beg to differ... long straight hair IS a style just as much as is any other choice.And when you say "long straight hair" are you excluding long curly* hair from your "style" assessment?> There is nothing more sad to me that someone who> cannot let go of the past. (OK, death of a loved one> is more sad, but I do just hate to see people wasting> their potential by living in the past).> Keeping the same hairstyle for years and years is sad> in this way. I really hate to see an otherwise> good-looking woman who just cannot let go of her old> long hair, for whatever reason. Sad, very sad.Then please do yourself (and these women, and me, and who knows who else) and direct your attention away from such women. Nobody wants to see you hurt yourself.> I guess that it just comes from the same mistake that> people make so often in life: they are just too scared> to chage. They grow old ans ossified in their choices.Quite honestly, I know (and know of) FAR more women who consistently keep their hair short through the years. Is your complaint here against long hair, or lack of desire to change, for if it is truly the latter, then certainly I would expect to hear you wishing that "all those short-haired women who never grow their hair long are 'scared to change' and ought to grow their hair long to please YOUR desire for change?" Have I accurately summed up your feelings here, Zorak?> Long hair is like this, often. Someone thinks> "hey, I like long hair", and they make the> mistake of thinking that "longer is always> better, and more lenght is better always".> So sad, so sad.Nobody said that Zorak has to appreciate other's choices for themselves. I can accept that others choose hairstyle/length choices which are inconsistent with my preferences. Why can't you?Besides, longer is better ;-)> I often see women who would look much better if they> would just update their hair, just a little. I am not> talking going radically short from below the> waist....perhaps cutting it to just below the> shoulders would make it so much better!Going from below the waist to just below the shoulders IS a radical change.I just don't understand this, Zorak. Where do you live that your eyes are so assaulted with long-haired women? I've been around these United States quite a bit and everywhere I go there is an abundance of women with short hair.I got an idea for you, Zorak. The next time you see a woman you like, and wish that she would "change" her hair (presumably, cut it shorter) that you just imagine that she had just cut her hair a lot shorter the day before. Would that satisfy your desire for HER to have changed?> After all, most people would say that "long> hair" is about anything that is below shoulder> length. But, down to a woman's tush is just a little> too much (IMO)....The definition of the length that constitutes "long" is subjective...> it detracts from the woman's real beauty.A woman whose hair is very long has enhanced her beauty by virtue of having very long hair (there are 2 sides to this coin, Zorak).> It kind of indicates that the woman puts all> her "stock in herself" into her hair.You have apparently failed to notice all of the other things that she does to enhanced her beauty. She would be disappointed to learn that you failed to see how ravishing she was despite her efforts...> But hey, it is an person's right to choose. I just> think a person who hangs onto the same old long hair> for years and years is making a silly choice!You are entitled to your opinion, and at the same time since you have expressed yours thusly, one *might* think the same of those who feel as you do (i.e. that your opinion is silly).> Think of long hair as a canvas upon which a great work> of art can be created. If you never paint the canvas> (cut the hair) you miss the potential.Think of long hair as a shining, gleaming, brilliant mirror. And think of those scissors that destroy it as a rock hurled at that mirror, thus destroying it.> And don't give me any of this bull about "hair> accessories and braids and buns" for long> hair....that is just more of the same old stuff. It> would be like mounting the blank canvas in a> succession of different frames....it is still just a> blank canvas in a bunch of different frames!And short hair is MORE versatile? Please... do tell how short hair imparts more styling versatility than long hair.> To update the hair, you have to cut some of it off (or> perm or color it) so you have a different style.....Perhaps your sense of creativity is not as extraordinary as you think?> So, a shorter (still long, just updated some, or> colored, or permed) haircut is more modern RELATIVE to> the individual.And so is the short head of hair, worn short for many years, which has been allowed to grow long. In the same context (and for the individual who takes that path), long hair is, for them, MORE modern.Dave
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> In all of the discussion in this thread, I think that> everyone has missed the idea that an updated haircut> can be RELATIVELY modern for the invidual, rather than> ABSOLUTELY modern in terms of what is "in> vogue" in the overall fashion world.> If a woman has long straight hair, then she obviously> has had it that way for a few years, because that is> how long it takes to grow long straight hair.> So, if she updates her hair by getting an actual> style, as opposed to just having long straight hair,> the it is more modern RELATIVE to her.Are you saying long straight hair isn't an "actualstyle"? Isn't this a bit harsh? As far as the "moremodern" thing goes, perhaps in some cases women have hadshort hair their whole life and long hair is more modernrelative to them...works both ways!> There is nothing more sad to me that someone who> cannot let go of the past. (OK, death of a loved one> is more sad, but I do just hate to see people wasting> their potential by living in the past).> Keeping the same hairstyle for years and years is sad> in this way. I really hate to see an otherwise> good-looking woman who just cannot let go of her old> long hair, for whatever reason. Sad, very sad.Why is liking your hair long "living in the past"?Perhaps some women are simply too busy enjoying theirlong hair in the *present* to care about *your* opinionsabout how sad it is!> I guess that it just comes from the same mistake that> people make so often in life: they are just too scared> to chage. They grow old ans ossified in their choices.> Long hair is like this, often. Someone thinks> "hey, I like long hair", and they make the> mistake of thinking that "longer is always> better, and more lenght is better always".Sometimes this may be true. However, some women like longhair, and if it looks good on them and they are satisfiedw/ it, why cut it? Perhaps many women aren't afraid ofchange but are simply happy w/ what they have.> So sad, so sad.> I often see women who would look much better if they> would just update their hair, just a little. I am not> talking going radically short from below the> waist....perhaps cutting it to just below the> shoulders would make it so much better!I agree. I see many people who I think should head to thesalon for a good trim. However, on the other hand, I seea lot of women w/ short hair who I think would look muchbetter w/ long hair!> After all, most people would say that "long> hair" is about anything that is below shoulder> length. But, down to a woman's tush is just a little> too much (IMO)....it detracts from the woman's real> beauty. It kind of indicates that the woman puts all> her "stock in herself" into her hair.Huh? That's the silliest thing I've ever heard. Couldn'tbeing a slave to regular salon trims for a short haircut(needed more frequently than on long hair) be perceivedin this same matter? Long hair isn't necessarily highermaintainence than short hair! Since my hair went fromvery long to short this past year, I speak fromexperience! I think it really takes a special kind ofhair to pull off butt length hair in order for it to lookgood, but it can look great on the right person and notbe "too much".> But hey, it is an person's right to choose. I just> think a person who hangs onto the same old long hair> for years and years is making a silly choice!Is it any sillier than hanging on to the same shorthairdo for years? Long haired people aren't the only oneswho keep the same hairdos for years! Also, couldn't aperson who is *never* satisfied to keep the samehairstyle for more than a short period of time beperceived as equally silly? I get a kick out of peoplewho feel the need to try out a new color of hair everyother month!> Think of long hair as a canvas upon which a great work> of art can be created.Perhaps in some cases long hair *is* a great work of artin its own right! Not always-- but if it is thickhealthy, trimmed regularly to keep its shape, and fitsthe person's face and body type!> To update the hair, you have to cut some of it off (or> perm or color it) so you have a different style.....Wouldn't growing hair longer also qualify as "updating"by your definition? It is a change afterall thought notas immediate!DawnRelated Link:Dawn's Secret Garden
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>From MarkDaveYou get the record straight. I NEVER had anything to dowith those messages about bald heads. There are otherpersons who without permission,misused my e mail address.I am changing my e mail address to a private unlistede mail address. Unauthorized persons put out messageswithout my consent. I am NOT responsible for the erreneoususe of my e mail address and my name by other persons.> My e mail address has been changed because of this,to an unlisted e mail.Mark>>
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From JackThe Great Dave you need a psychologist to examine you.Dave you need to spend a week at the Catwalk Salonand you need to spend a month at the Progressive Club andthen you need to visit Shaver Dan. Slick Ed is out theretoo. Yankee Clipper is also out there. Dave all personsin this country are entitled to express their opionion.Freedom of Speech is entitled to Mark. You great Daveare making false allegations against him. Mark is a okayThe truth is Mr. Dave,there are manyladies that do want to shave each others heads. Back offon Mark,there is not anything wrong with him. There areother men out here,who do not want him used for a scapegoat. Look at the controversial Catwalk Salon,whatis it, Women shaving other womens long hair down to bald!!!! Women are more fascinated by shaving other womens heads.When the year 2000 does come,there will be more baldheaded ladies,other different men will tell you that.Catwalk Salon features a large number of bald women andis getting record hits. Some persons tried to shut downthe Catwalk Salon because women were shaving other womenbald so many times. You are inconsistent,great Dave.hair styles are a very controversial subjectJack. There is headshave event in Kansas City thisnext week end,where the women will shave other womenwith long hair down to bald,read about it,in the newspapers.> Frank
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