"Modern" style haircuts

> I was browsing the web this afternoon, and in several> long-to-short makeovers, it was often mentioned that> the model now had a more "modern" short> hairstyle.> In your opinion, is short hair, in general, more> "modern" than long hair?In all of the discussion in this thread, I think that everyone has missed the idea that an updated haircut can be RELATIVELY modern for the invidual, rather than ABSOLUTELY modern in terms of what is "in vogue" in the overall fashion world.If a woman has long straight hair, then she obviously has had it that way for a few years, because that is how long it takes to grow long straight hair.So, if she updates her hair by getting an actual style, as opposed to just having long straight hair, the it is more modern RELATIVE to her.There is nothing more sad to me that someone who cannot let go of the past. (OK, death of a loved one is more sad, but I do just hate to see people wasting their potential by living in the past).Keeping the same hairstyle for years and years is sad in this way. I really hate to see an otherwise good-looking woman who just cannot let go of her old long hair, for whatever reason. Sad, very sad.I guess that it just comes from the same mistake that people make so often in life: they are just too scared to chage. They grow old ans ossified in their choices.Long hair is like this, often. Someone thinks "hey, I like long hair", and they make the mistake of thinking that "longer is always better, and more lenght is better always".So sad, so sad.I often see women who would look much better if they would just update their hair, just a little. I am not talking going radically short from below the waist....perhaps cutting it to just below the shoulders would make it so much better!After all, most people would say that "long hair" is about anything that is below shoulder length. But, down to a woman's tush is just a little too much (IMO)....it detracts from the woman's real beauty. It kind of indicates that the woman puts all her "stock in herself" into her hair.But hey, it is an person's right to choose. I just think a person who hangs onto the same old long hair for years and years is making a silly choice!Think of long hair as a canvas upon which a great work of art can be created. If you never paint the canvas (cut the hair) you miss the potential.And don't give me any of this bull about "hair accessories and braids and buns" for long hair....that is just more of the same old stuff. It would be like mounting the blank canvas in a succession of different frames....it is still just a blank canvas in a bunch of different frames!To update the hair, you have to cut some of it off (or perm or color it) so you have a different style.....So, a shorter (still long, just updated some, or colored, or permed) haircut is more modern RELATIVE to the individual.Zorak (wistfully dreaming of the unbounded future......)

FROM BALD WOMANA bald female head can be considered a modern hair style.I just finished two headshaves on two ladies,who areall around 21 years old. All three ladies had long,thick,heavy,blond,waist length hair. I told them that for theyear 2000,a freshly shaved bald head would be a goodexperience. Remember that bald female actress in StarTrek. JENA,you should consider shaving your head,totallybald. I am an old woman,who gave the two ladies,withwaist length hair,a nice sedative,to completely realx themThen I plugged in the barber clippers. I used no clipperattachments. I ran the baber clippers right down thecenter of both ladies heads right at the base of theirscalps. I made repeated sweeps thru there waist lengthhair with the barber clippers,at the base of their scalpuntil their heads were shaved completely bald. What a sightthick heavy hair falling all over the head right downto the floor. I am lady who loves to shave other ladiesheads. After the sedative wore off the two ladies lovetheir smooth white heads,and looked at the the waist lengthhair on the floor. BALD IS THE MOST MODERN HAIRSTYLE ALADY CAN HAVE JENA.

I tend to agree that "modern" and "youthful," when used in this context, are buzzwords used to encourage women to part with their long hair. It makes little sense, since long hair on women has been common, if not prevalent, in practically /every/ historic period. Including this one.The only hairstyles I would call "modern" are those that are extremely trendy and new. It's not necessarily a good thing.Ally

> River Rat> Have you ever seen the Catwalk Salon. It seems the> bigest enjoyment and the catwalk salon is to buzz a> ladies hair with clippers. For mant persons a lady> with> buzzed haircut is still considered short hair.> My question is a buzzed haircut still considered> femmine?> River Rat my e mail is listed above. Maybe you can> send a private e mail message,telling me what you like> about short hair styles. I like at least chin length> hair or longer hair,but I do NOT like shorter that> chin> length hair.To MarkCheck out the philosophy of this site. It is not mine though I agree with him. His explanation is at the bottom -while you are at it check out some of the favorites - very cute! http://members.tripod.com/rokstedy/short.htmSorry, unable to do personal e-mail from this computer.

>>from MarkYou should also think if a husband or boyfriend percieves a long or short hair style as being modern.IT IS THE HUSBAND OR BOYFRIEND THAT ALSO HAS A THOUGHTOF WHETHER A WIVES OR GIRLFRIENDS HAIR STYLE IS MODERNOR NOT. A MAN DOES LOOK AT A LADIES HAIR STYLE,ANDMAKES A DECSION IF IT IS MODERN OR OLD.

Hi Jena,Presumably the focus of your question (and the referenced descriptions)is the hair of females, the length of which has varied, by culture, throughouthistory. Modern is defined (http://www.m-w.com) as "1a: characteristicof the present or immediate past, 2: involving recent techniques or methods."The existence of long and short hair are both "characteristic of the presentor immediate past," and to some extent both long and short hair can becut or styled using "recent techniques/methods," though short hairstyleshave probably received more attention to techniques or methods than havelong hairstyles in recent years (any stylists wish to refute or corroboratethe validity of that statement?). So whether or not short hair/hairstylesare more "modern" than long hair/hairstyles is debateable.The real issue here is the use of the word to describe subject long-to-shortmakeovers. It's my belief that the shortened hair is described as being"modern" to impart feelings of anxiety among those have long hair who havenow "become" (by virtue of the words given) "dated," to encourage them (inthe event they were -- or are now -- vacillating) to resolve that anxietyvia a short haircut. In a nutshell.Dave (where has the past month gone?!)

> From Mark> short hair is not a matter of time and place. Short> hair is> modern if a man,thinks that his wife would look good> in short hair. A few ladies have the short fine hair> that makes look more modern. I think long hair on> ladies> will come back after the year 2000, in the United> States.> Most men still consider long hair to be the ultimate> modern style haircut. Some men do like short hair on> their wives. For some men,short hair on ladies can> be considered modern. Some men do consider short hair> modern for a while,but then short hair may get old> over a long period of time. A man wants a lady to have> short hair,if she looks good with short hair,it is not> based on whether it is modern or old in a mans mind.> Men and women ususally have different opionions on> whether short hair is modern. MEN IN THIS COUNTRY> HAVE BEEN FORCED TO ACCEPT SHORT HAIR,ON A LADY,> WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT. Some men can find a lady> with short hair to portray a feminine identity.--------I hope your prediction for long hair after the year 2000 is wrong!!! I am a guy and really enjoy short hair on ladies.No buzz cuts or things like that, just chin length and above. I agree that short hair is not modern or long hair is old.... the style has more to do with it. Though some styles of today are actually a copy of "older" styles.

> I was browsing the web this afternoon, and in several> long-to-short makeovers, it was often mentioned that> the model now had a more "modern" short> hairstyle.> In your opinion, is short hair, in general, more> "modern" than long hair?> If we're talking about getting rid of those awful> Farrah Fawcett "wings" from the 1970s, then> I'd definitely concur! But I personally think the> precise style, rather than length, determines its> "timeline."> What do you think?