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Posted: February 26 2006 at 6:35pm
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Hi Valencia,
I was reading through the other forum link you posted....and saw this...
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The bonds should be applied about 1/8th of an inch from the scalp
I notice that many other fusionist apply the bond a bit further away from the scalp than 1/8th of an inch. Can you tell us why you apply the bonds so close to the scalp and if they ever have a tendency to stick out from the head that close?
I am pretty new to fusion and find my applications on my mannequin have been more 1/4 to 3/8th's of an inch from the scalp. Would appreciate your input.
Thanks
No problem,
If the bond is sticking up it is too close or the bond is too big. I place my bonds as close to the scalp as possible without touching the scalp. Measurements are approximate this is why we say about 1/8 of and inch. Keep working on the mannequin you will eventually be able to judge where to place the bonds but take in account you need to leave room for that bond to melt and they should lay flat. 1/4 of an inch may be ok for long hair but it may be hard for a client with only an inch of hair to work with. keep at it and it will become second nature to you.
Thank You for your respone
Valencia
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 6:53pm
I edited my post to say my bonds on my mannequin are all about 3/8ths
of an inch away from the scalp....I went to measure after posting and 3/
8th's was more accurate. I didn't have a problem with them sticking out at
all I was just curious if you had had that happen putting them 1/8th of an
inch away from the scalp. My bonds are pretty small as I cut the bonds in
half...I ended up cutting every bond I installed as I thought the bonds left
whole (pre bonded hair) were all too big. I have yet to see a small enough
pre-bonded hair tip that I could install whole that didn't look too big. I
will probably pre-tip myself too.
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 6:58pm
You are 100% correct and well on your way. When doing research always pay attention to those buzz words, and if 3/8 of an inch works for you go for it....I LOVE IT....Cutting them in half is the way to go, and pre-tipping by hand is even better like I said before one size doesn't fit all.
Valencia
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 7:25pm
Well, I have lot's prebonded hair here to install, so I will go even closer to
see how they look. I was just thinking if I went too close they would
maybe stick out.....I'll give it a try...Thanks.
For the fusion girls on the board.........what spacing do you generally like
to use from the scalp to apply your fusion bonds?
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 7:56pm
Save~A~Stray wrote:
Well, I have lot's prebonded hair here to install, so I will go even closer to see how they look. I was just thinking if I went too close they would maybe stick out.....I'll give it a try...Thanks.
For the fusion girls on the board.........what spacing do you generally like to use from the scalp to apply your fusion bonds?
Perfect....Have you done a few test strands on yourself? Safety is an important factor....Mannequins can't feel heat....Please be aware of not only what it looks like but also make sure it is safe.
I have a picture in my online gallery of close fusion bonds taken by the client because she was so amazed that the bonds where so undetectable even when exposed after she washed her hair. Also you will see how close I get to the scalp without error....
Just give me instructions and I will post that picture
Valencia
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 8:38pm
No, I didn’t install fusion on myself. I have worn GL fusion myself and a
shield was used to protect my scalp, I would never think of installing
fusion without a shield protector to protect the client’s scalp either. Even
my mannequin had a protector shield. Safety is of utmost importance
especially when dealing with anything hot near a client. I assume you use
a protector shield yourself when you are applying the fusion bonds 1/8”
from the scalp?
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 8:42pm
Oh I just read your edited post...sorry Valencia...I have major problems
with my Mac posting pics, so I am not the one to ask how to post
pics....maybe someone could help you with that....would be great to see
your bonds close up or a link to the picture
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 9:20pm
I applaud Great Lengths for that and encourage it but I don't use it because I don't need to. There are alot of things we learn in training that we don't stick with once we start doing our own thing and perfect it. I know there are stylist out here that knows what I mean. Do you still part the hair in five sections before doing a haircut or roller set? And if you do good for you....
I almost always do my own hair, front and back because I like my hair done a certain way and I am to the point that I don't have to think about bond placement or burning my scalp (and I don't have eyes in the back of my head), it is second nature to me at this point.
I am just being honest with you I hope this is not taken out of context as being conceited.
I need to say that you are doing the right thing to protect your clients, and even more while testing your craft. I respect that
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 10:04pm
Haha…No, I don’t follow the 5 section haircut…..I see what you mean, but
as I am training in fusion I would feel better with it and like it for
separating the hair and avoiding any stray hairs. Good for you….you don’t
need it…I didn’t take it as being conceited at all just that’s your
preference.
Yeah, sorry I can't post pics here either...I was able to when it was the old
forum settings.
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Posted: February 26 2006 at 11:43pm
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hairbyvalencia wrote:
Alot of these stylist learned by watching DVD's and mimic what they see, that is so dangerous hands on training is best dvd's don't come close to proper training....
Valencia
I am so glad to hear u say that, i feel so strongly about that as well. I too repair alot of work from unqualified people. It absolutley disgusts me the work i have seen and the horror stories i have come across.
Hands on traing no matter what method is the only way to learn and prove you are a true professional. Along with alot of practicing on models and doll heads. Glad to have you here with us Valencia!
I'm sorry I missed your post, Thank You....At least I know I'm not alone....
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 6:17am
That didnt work either Synne
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Posted: February 27 2006 at 6:20am
I think there is something wrong with the picture thing on here. I tried from my computer, flickr picture poster, verizon pix place and none show up here.
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Posted: March 01 2006 at 2:51pm
Thank You for all the help ladies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Let me know when I can post the link....
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Posted: March 01 2006 at 7:06pm
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WOW, now this is a first, most chastise me for giving too much information.
Again I say don't take it personal, you seem to be focussed only on
a few words but not why I used them and if it don't apply to you
why worry about it? I am so full of information and knowledge when it
comes to the procedure, maintanance and removal, my distributer
information is only a fraction of my knowledge. I was able to start a
thread and answer over 200 questions and not one time do I mention my
distributer and yes I let the people know what is out there I feel
that people should arm themselves with as much information as possible
before having this service done. I don't mince words when it comes to
my business because I know better, and you are right I can't
stop it all but I don't have to contribute to it either. This business
is growing at a rapid pace which means we all need to be
vigilant.
As for my fellow stylist, if they choose to share that information,
well that is their choice. I can't tell people how to run their
business nor will I chatise them for it.
Valencia
Actually, it's unquestionably not the first time you've heard this.
Before I found this forum I did a lot of research because I didn't know
anything about hair extensions. I found your site and sent you an email with questions. You
replied saying you wouldn't tell me anything but I can take a plane trip to you for
extensions.
I'll never forget that and when I saw your name here, it really bummed me out.
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Posted: March 01 2006 at 8:58pm
I had a bad feeling about this thread from the start.....Malibu, thanks for sharing your experience.... There are plenty of us here who are more than willing to share!
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