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    Posted: February 02 2007 at 1:14am

I read through the posts and didn't really see any answer that might help me. So if anyone could possible help me I would REALLY appreciate it.

Here goes...I wear a hair piece and love the color that they color it, a light to medium ash brown. I have been dying my own hair to match for years.
I have naturally dark brown hair with very little grey running through it. What I do is I strip it one day and it usually comes out yellow with sometimes a very light orange. The next day I put a toner on it, Wella ColorCharm "White Lady" which makes it a platinum blonde. The next day I put on neutral protein filler and dye it medium ash brown with a blue base. I do this about every 2-3 months.
For some reason it always has red highlights. No matter what I do. I tried using a light ash brown but it comes up to light. If I mix medium and light ash it still comes out medium brown with red highlights.
 
I have recently been skipping the "White Lady" toner but it comes out the same color.
 
Basically I cannot get out the red highlights. I have even tried "Red Out".The woman at Sally's cannot believe my hair doesn't come out green, but I always get the red highlights.
 
So I just dyed it again and again the red, and this time a little to dark, but I know that will lighten on it's own. So does anyone know what I can do to get the red out without stripping it again and starting over? I thought maybe of using a platinum protein filler thinking it will drab it out. I know there are drabbers, but that always makes it darker and it only lasts a few days.
 
If anyone has any suggestions for the next time I re-dye it or for now on how to get the red out without making it any darker I would appreciate it soooo very much! Pleeeeease any suggestions?


Edited by bastion - February 02 2007 at 12:18pm
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I guess I'm not sure as to why you strip it blonde just to go back to brown??? Seems like alot of processing.
Red is the normal "undertone" of most hair,so I think it is pretty common. My only advice would be to use a darker ASH brown,and maybe a ash brown color enhancing shampoo.Wish I could help more.
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I strip it everytime because I don't know how to do just the roots. If I use an ash brown on the roots without stripping they turn out bright red.
 
I didn't know they had ash brown enhancing shampoo, I'll have to look for it, so thank you for that.
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I too would experiment with a dye that just goes the ash brown you want, without going platinum first.  You need a brown dye with a green base, if you just buy a box color that says "ash" it could be anything in there.  If it has violet in it, that would make it "ash" but not on brown hair that you are lightening, only on blonde hair that is already yellow.  The base is all important and works with what you have, so what you have matters a lot.  I suspect that when you are going white and using ash, you are using an ash that has a violet base to get back darker.  The violet would counter the yellow on your blonde hair.

Get your stuff at Sally or another beauty supply shop if you aren't already, those will have the base written on the color.  Get brown with a green base, and be prepared to try different dyes and different times to get what you want.  (Dye's are much cheaper there, so in the long run I'm sure it will be cheaper than all the steps you are doing now).  You may have more luck with leaving it on only 25 minutes, or more luck if you leave it on 45.  Its best to experiment with test strands to work it out first instead of doing your whole head.
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Artec makes a good color depositing shampoo,you can order it online.
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