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Hi myhair.....

Is it iron or lime or what...in your hard water?

It sounds like your water could be playing a part ...Its hell on highlighted hair.

What do you dislike about your hair...All we know is that it sux.

If its fine and flat, I would cut back on the mega moisture...and stick with the protein products...Massage that scalp til its pink. Keep that surface circulation flowing.

Do you have a toner or sealer on your highlight?

If you decide to clarify, because of your hard water we don't want to be disturbing your tone.


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I don't know what is in my water....do most people test it or something? All I know is every since I moved in I have hated the way it makes my hair feel. It's definitely not soft water!

What do you dislike about your hair? It is thin and flat with NO body. But the worst thing is the breakage. I cannot stop the breakage! And I had breakage even when there was not a drop of color on my hair. It is not so bad that the general person looking at me would see fried split hair...but if I take my hair and look at it, it is a sea of splits and breakage.

If its fine and flat, I would cut back on the mega moisture...and stick with the protein products...Massage that scalp til its pink. Keep that surface circulation flowing. >>> what does massaging do? I don't ever do that. I won't know if it's pink, so how long should I massage? Can you rec good protein products besides redken? but speaking of redken, is extreme good? I haven't tried that one. I have KPAk and am not thrilled with it. is it true that i could overdo the protein? how many times a week should I use protein. I do the cat treatment once a week...

Do you have a toner or sealer on your highlight? I don't think so. After I get the highlights, nothing else goes on my hair.

I clarify about once every 2 weeks. Do you have a good clarifying rec? Right now I use Origins.

Thanks so much for your help!
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I have fine, thin, flat, highlighted hair and I use NO conditioner. I wear it fairly short (right now but want it a bit longer) and get it trimmed every six to eight weeks. It looks best when it is all one length and about an inch above my shoulders. I have hard water where I live in Florida and it has a lot of iron in it so I have to highlight every time I get a haircut to keep it from getting red and brassy. I use a clarifying shampoo every day which I think keeps it from going quite so flat. Moisturizing shampoos are a no-no for this type of hair. It just makes it flatter.

As long as I am consistent with the trims and keep it above shoulder length, I don't really have a problem with breakage and I have been highlighting since 1979 without a break. I also blow it dry on high heat every day and I used to curl the ends under with a curling iron when it was longer and even that didn't cause breakage. The only thing that ever gave me a problem besides perms (disaster) was when someone overlapped bleach with my highlights and some hair broke off then. Be very careful with the person who does your color. They have to be careful when doing touch ups. This type of hair is more fragile then most but it actually looks really pretty when the highlights are done correctly.

I know you probably hate to hear this, but if you get a blunt cut above the shoulders your hair will probably look much better and much healthier and fuller. Believe me, I have been dealing with this hair for over 40 years and there isn't much I haven't tried. This is the best hairstyle for this type of hair. You can change it by adding bangs and stuff but a longish bob is the way to go, the blunter the better.

My 16 year old daughter also has this type of hair and she has very heavy highlights. She keeps her hair blunt at her shoulders with light layering around her face and looks fabulous (oh to be 16 again). And she doesn't have to do very much to it to make it look good.
"It is better to look marvelous than to feel marvelous" Billy Crystal
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Sorry it's taken so long to get back.

I still use Cat Protein most for breakage...you can't over use it...some proteins cause brittleness with over use, usually Keratin. The Extreme pac is a balance of both moist. and protein.

You don't have to see pink scalp to know if you are really massaging and stimulating...It's just plain good to massage your scalp. Better yet get a massage.

There are thousands of nerve endings all over your scalp, and face, I might add, massaging them is not going to hurt and it's free. Use the Pads of your fingers and really move that scalp around. A healthy scalp moves...it's not glued to your scull.

Demodoll has some really great advise too. I totally agree about the moisture, especially on highlighted hair.

If you had Iron in your water you would know it...i.e.; rust stains on your fixtures and your hair would most likely get brassy or gummy. Lime on the other hand leaves a dusty dull coating on almost everything it touches...I like BTB White Grapefruit, Iso Purifying or Alterna's Purifying...
You can try lemon juice if your sure that your not clarifying toner out of your HLT>

I love using Redken ShadesEQ Clear as a glossing treatment after my HLT's...It helps with lasting shine and IMO leaves the hair stronger.

Last but not least be healthy, drink your water, get your sleep...eat healthy, watch your stress and OK exercise(as much as it pains me to add that) nothing will help better then these things.

I love Yoga

But, alas, I'm still not doing it everyday
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