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    Posted: August 14 2003 at 4:18pm
i'm baffled. with all the new lines of shampoo that is out. they have harsh detergent!!!! not just cheaper brands but salon too. i put ''so long'' shampoo back because of the detergent! i felt stupid because my mom already paid for it when i notice it. we brought it back. conditioner to the shampoos are ok. does the companies that make
them know it's harsh detergent?
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Originally posted by princessmonica princessmonica wrote:

do the companies that make them know it's harsh detergent?

Yes.

Apparently not enough of their potential customers care to know. Consider yourself fortunate to know better.
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They use them because it is cheaper for them to use them. As you already know we live in a very greedy world.

Its a sad fact about the ingredeint list. I checked out a new line offered by my distributor and they all had the harsh ingredients.

The company name is called GRUND. Beware of it!
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Can you all name some of these harher ingrediants so that i can check my brands???

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Hi Erin,

I sent my handy little ingredient list (it's actually 5+ pages) to Monica and I will gladly send it to you as well. Bmail me your email address and I'll ship it your way.

A few harsh detegents to watch out for (especially if you have dry hair) are:

Sodium lauryl sulfate
Alkyl benzene sulfonate
Alkyl sodium sulfate
Ammonium Xylenesulfanate
Benzyl alcohol
Ethyl alcohol
Isopropyl alcohol
Kaolin (clay)
Sodium C 14-16 olefin sulfate
Sodium dodecyl sulfonate
Sodium polystyrene/styrene
Sulfur
TEA-dodecylbenzene
TEA Laureth Sulfate
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Lyris,
Can you send that to me also?
laine1998@hotmail.com

Thanks
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Is there a relative gravity indicated on the list ? Like which ones should be avouded like the plague and which ones are just small poisons ?



In any such case ; crap@kintaro.ca . It's my spam account, but I still read from there.
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Hi guys...I will send the list your way in a few minutes...have to switch to the other computer where it's stored. Kintaro, each term has a definition of what the ingredient does, but no ratings of potential for harm as such. I try to avoid drying ingredients altogether, no matter what degree. Seems to work okay so far!
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