I did.  I like it!  At first, I used it on my entire face, but now only on trouble areas as it dries up my entire skin.

Name a price and I'll sell you mine.  I have about 2 lotions since they put you in a membership type deal.

Charlene

hey mocha -

murad makes a nice moisturizer with vitamin C that's nongreasy, but it's only spf 15.

i had the same problem - i have oily skin and melasma on top of it, so i was perpetually breaking out. my alternate rec. for you would be to use a nice, nongreasy moisturizer with or without sunscreen (i like murad's for oily skin - no spf), and recently my dermatologist recommended something called "total block" by fallene. i get the tinted version at spf 60! the nontinted goes up to 65. i wear it instead of foundation over moisturizer and love it. it has antioxidants and it's full spectrum. i've not gotten a single blotch since using it. what i realized is that i was still getting tons of exposure driving in my car, walking back and forth outside from my office to another building, etc. i've decided i can fake any tan i want and being super sunsmart now will save me troubles in the future.

cheryl

try sephora. my gf went there and uses a tinted spf moisterizer. i want to get one there, i just am waiting to get extra $.

edit: take a look around sephora.com 

Ooooo, this is  so my field!!

Let me tell you something about the whole spf thing!

when looking for a good spf you really need to look at the active ingredient (zinc oxide is the best) The FDA only regulates spf factor for UVB rays (burning rays) b/c it wasn't until recently that the UVA rays were found to be damaging. UVA rays cover 320nm to 400nm (these are aging rays)

For example an spf of 30 covers 97% of UVB rays

and an spf of 45 covers 98% of UVB rays

 - thats right not a big difference and this goes for ALL spf product (FDA regulations)

So, if you are looking for an spf moisturizer that is for anti-aging - don't look at the spf look at the active ingredient - and actually you should be using an spf and a moisturizer seperately

How funny I am just getting ready to go do my training seminar on this in a few hours (I'm in Colorado Springs)- It is damn HOT!

....here's the catch - no spf on ANY product will address the most inportant rays - UVA 

Mocha PM me your address - and tell me all your skin problems

are you oily, acneac?

Hello

this is really OT but i was wondering..

If you need to visit the doctor in america, do they charge you for the visit, and for the medication??

Oh yes, they charge for everything, although most people have insurance to cover most or some of the cost.

I remember when I lived inItaly it was all free, but on the otherhand the service here is much better - I remember sitting in the hospital waiting ALL day!

here you can make an appointmet and acctually get seen, but now I complain about a 20 min wait! but it's no 8 hrs

hey mocha

the total block is full spectrum uva/uvb...you can read more info here:  http://www.totalblock.com - www.totalblock.com , although i bought mine off amazon.com b/c it was cheaper there (?).

if you don't mind me asking..what injections? i'm thinking it's about time i do something a little more formalized for myself, too. botox? not sure, maybe a smidge of filling.

ah - also at the recommendation of my derm i've been using a product called kojilac-C; it's mainly a blend of depigment stuff like kojic acid for my melasma, but it's got glycolic acid and vitamin C. i think my skin texture has really improved.

cheryl

hee hee. i hear you on that one. i'm what one might call fish belly white. i think it would only be beneficial if you had some hyperpigmentation from sun exposure or something. i think actually it keeps pigment from developing - blocks that pathway, with a little fading of what's there. in order to really fade i've only had success with prescription stuff with steroids and retinol.

i realize i'm getting more and more verbose, but i've read really good things about moisturizers with idebenone. really expensive stuff. touted as the new super antioxidant yadda yadda.

i love that you just come out with it and say you lie about your age. haha. awesome.

mochachip wrote: Char, you have two bottles of "Repairing Lotion"? Let me go find out what that's actually supposed to cost.

yeah  !

http://www.intaglioskin.com/ - http://www.intaglioskin.com/

this is the line i use and also carry in my Salon- its wonderful-

i will be 48 in two weeks and everyone tells me i look younger. check it out.

its all glycolic base and will keep your skin is amazing shape!

sure mocha -

what i get is kojilac-C from my dermatologist. it's sold online also. basically the form i get is a liquid suspension although i know there is a lotion form also. the basics are that it increases cell turnover (contains lactic acid), has antioxidants (vitamin C and green tea) - both of which help with fine lines and discoloration in terms of treatment and prevention. It also has some bleaching qualities to tone down the pigment already there - the bleach in kojilac is kojic acid b/c my derm recommends for me to stay away from hydroquinone. i think it's because with my problem - melasma - it doesn't always work as well, is more for treatment and i need that plus maintenance, and can take a while to fade. for most people hydroquinone (like in many pigment treatments - including fade creams you can get in the drug store) may work fine. i think the principle is that kojilac can be used daily without irritation.

i use it am and pm under my moisturizer after washing my face.

did you go to a derm for your treatments? prescription derm meds can be super cheap now too if you have insurance that covers. i would say also ask the person who gave you your treatments for a home maintenence ideas?

TanglesRC wrote: i will be 48 in two weeks and everyone tells me i look younger.

Sand- HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!  I am a cancer too  and my b-day is 7-11

hey mocha -

that sounds incredibly sensible. i think the principles that are recommended now you are already up on - turning over surface cells via retin A or some other fruit, beta, or glycolic peel would also help with minor skin pigmentation. the kojilac i use is for all over; in the past when i've had more pronounced pigmentation i used a strong prescription topical just on those spots.