Phantom Modulate Hair Color Remover?
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Topic: Phantom Modulate Hair Color Remover?
Posted By: Vicki in Oregon
Subject: Phantom Modulate Hair Color Remover?
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 1:01pm
| Anyone used this? I am scared to. A couple salons use it but neither seems super knowlegable about it. One said it will cause hair breakage for sure the other said no it will not. My dk brown hair was bleached copper last summer when I asked for light brown no red and I went to get it done medium brown to cover up the brassy color and both times after that was disaster. The last time was 5 days ago and she made the copper BLACK. Not sure what to do my waist length hair is damaged and I have already used harsh home cleaning soaps (ie dishwasher detergent, hand soap, tar shampoo for dandruff) on it to try to remove the haircolor. But it is way damaged and I have to go back to the good stuff before I dry it out further. One salon here uses Goldwell hair remover but the online hairdresser seems to think this Phamtom Modulate is the most gentlest. Any ideas? Thanks. |
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Posted By: karen s
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 5:40pm
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Hi , I have used Goldwell colour remover on clients who wanted red colours removed from their hair.I had to use it twice to rid her hair of red, it does not damage the hair because it doesn't open the cuticles , colour removers shrink the artificial colour molecules from the hair, you need to vigorously shampoo your hair at least 5 times to remove the colour, but no damage is cased , in fact I applied another colour after using goldwell colour remover and the hair was in beautiful condition. Always remember to use a good conditioner after to restore the natural PH in your hair. I hope this helped a little .......karen. ------------- karen sanderson |
Posted By: Vicki in Oregon
Date Posted: February 25 2006 at 8:07pm
| Thank U Karen. The reason I am so confused is because while some hairdressers won't use the remover on me saying my hair will become super dry and also break off, others are willing and either say NO damage like you, or to expect some damage. After trusting the people that messed me up I don't know who to trust anymore, THREE bad experiences and not in my mind only but everyone who saw me or has seen my pics. Many places I contacted do not even use strippers but those that do, I went in for consults and the responses were what I wrote above. Why do they say damage if it does not cause damage? So confused :( |
Posted By: aubergine
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 10:24am
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The general opinion on here is that Colorfix is the most gentle, and I
have personally used Goldwell which was very kind to my hair - no
breakage, no dryness. It's bleach that ruined my hair, not colour
remover. Hairdressers are scared of ruining people's hair - bleaching and colour removing is usually serious business, used on already damaged hair...this is probably why they all say different things. I think whatever you choose you will have to have a good trim to let those long locks repair somewhat. I wish you lots of luck Louise |
Posted By: Vicki in Oregon
Date Posted: February 26 2006 at 11:52am
| Thanks Louise. A couple other hairdressers won't touch my hair with color remover. I wanted to think it was because they did not know enough about it and were scared of it for that reason but one seemed especially knowlegable. My hair is waist length when it is straight I keep it long because when it curls because it is natrually curly it is many many inches shorter. But it is breaking off too! If at the root I would not know because you lose some hair from the root anyway when it is naturally suppose to fall off. But I lost it mid shaft and all over really because hair is so fragile since the stupid colring I just had. So upset, bathtub full of shorter pieces that snapped off. Ugh. Wonder if you had more success because your hair is healthier than mine? The elasticity of mine is gone, and some break at the slightest tug even if hair is not split there. Will cut some today but not as much as I should. Already cut a few inches before. Since the bleaching my curls are not really curls either. Cant explain what they are not straight not curly just frizzy unless I take painstaking efforts to de-frizz but even then it is not curly or straight...not really describable to be honest with you... :( Will go put some olive oil in my hair now with dryer, so far nothing helped to remove color. I cant believe I bleached for nothing. NOw I am dealing with hair that is the worst color on me, hair that will be shorter than I like, and a texture that only damaged naturally curly hair can get. Sorry to vent again I just can't believe that last year at this time during my B-Day I had healthy pretty hair. Yes it was a dark brown blah color but I would take that anyday over damaged yucky black goth hair. So knowing all this do you think color remover is my answer still? I do not want to do those shampoo bleach caps. Thanks. |
Posted By: aubergine
Date Posted: February 28 2006 at 11:31am
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I'm sorry to hear about it. If your hair is this damaged you should certainly not attempt any colour correction - not just yet anyway. You need to buy some good intensive conditioners for your hair and leave it in, don't shampoo your hair everyday, don't blow-dy or straighten it...not until you can see improvement in your hair's health. Then maybe go and see a salon again, a few different ones, for their opions. Unfortunately, if you hair is breaks off in the middle it may be wise to get it cut significantly. I know this is a big step to take but remember, hair grows back - and when it does it'll be gorgeous and healthy. |
Posted By: LaVelta
Date Posted: March 02 2006 at 3:15pm
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You could try using Mailibu Crystal Gel Treatment. A colorist used this on my hair when my daughter colored my hair in beauty school and it came out a dark burgandy brown instead of a light copper brown. It removes any excess color and will not damage your hair. The colorist used it and then had me do it at home a week later. ------------- Vel |
Posted By: Vicki in Oregon
Date Posted: March 04 2006 at 8:13pm
| Thanks LaVelta. What exactly is Malibu Crystal Gel Treatment? And do you know if it works on damaged porous hair? I am sooo bummed because I was told that becasue my hair has mostly demi color on it that it will actually last LONGER than a had it been a permenent color because it was put on my porous bleached hair. UGH! I had NO idea it was reversed. I had heard that porous hair does not hold color well even if it initially grabbed it like it did mine and made it black. But yet that does not apply to a demi color, somehow in this case it works against you. Evidently it will hardly fade at all even in time, a loooong time. |